jsguitar
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clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
i am new here but i have been using sonar 8 for a few years and for the life of me i cant seem to figure out how to split clips without it adding a click sound at the beginning of the clip that was split. has anyone had this issue? is there a setting i might have wrong? i cant seem to figure out how to split a clip clean so i can past it and not have that click at the beginning of it.
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/02 18:01:47
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/09/02 18:52:46
"Edited spelling" New Tag line so I won't have to keep typing this. I may or may not have edited this yet, but I probably need to. < Message edited by MArwood -- 3/02/2525 3:45:05 AM >
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jsguitar
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/02 18:10:28
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thanks. i will look it up
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/02 18:50:55
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☄ Helpfulby robert_e_bone 2016/09/03 17:06:13
Hi,
there are two ways to deal with that clipping sound:
1. If the damage is already there, do a little Fade-in /out at the clip. You can do that by using the smart tool (star) and grab the clip at the upper. You will see a little fade icon... Move it to the right until the wave starts at the zero-flatline. At the end of the clip, it is the same procedure, just go left.
2. In the preferences you can choose between splitting clips directly at the position you choose OR tell SONAR, that it do the cut at the next "zero-crossing" I can't tell you the exact naming of the fields, because I have a localized version. It should be something like "Alignment" and "Patter/Raster arrange".
Nevertheless, the reason is, that you split the clip at a position where the level does not equals null. As a result, you have a very fast attack - a crack. You can see it, if you magnify the beginning/end of the clip.
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jsguitar
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/02 19:12:16
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thanks. i have used the fade trick to some success but sometimes it ups the background noise since it is essentially overlapping sounds but i wasnt aware of the zero crossing so i am going to educate myself about that and see if that is a better way to go. thank you.
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jsguitar
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/02 19:31:37
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now my question is if how do you match up splitting at a zero crossing and still being able to split it at the beginning of a measure so you can past it a couple of times?
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 10:56:25
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In a case like that you need to add a very slight fade-in. The "Slow In" curve will give the most effective click reduction in the shortest amount of time, you need only a few milliseconds.
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 11:41:39
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Also, split at zero is microscopic - nowhere close to even a hemidemisemiquaver (LOL!) It shouldn't make much difference with you timing or looping.
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 12:58:13
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vdd
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2. In the preferences you can choose between splitting clips directly at the position you choose OR tell SONAR, that it do the cut at the next "zero-crossing" I can't tell you the exact naming of the fields, because I have a localized version. It should be something like "Alignment" and "Patter/Raster arrange".
Nevertheless, the reason is, that you split the clip at a position where the level does not equals null. As a result, you have a very fast attack - a crack. You can see it, if you magnify the beginning/end of the clip.
I looked in preferences and cannot see this setting, where exactly is it?
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 15:02:20
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Preferences > Customization > Snap to Grid
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 16:50:28
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MArwood
Also, split at zero is microscopic - nowhere close to even a hemidemisemiquaver (LOL!) It shouldn't make much difference with you timing or looping.
Is that a real word? A hoobydoobywafer? A hummingbirdfeeder? WOW - I have soooooo much to learn. Yeah - the two techniques of either zero-point crossover or use of a short fade-in seems to be what I have seen the most, and work for me. I don't know about altering a split that has been done already, but there are audio masters in the forum community that post some pretty reliable methods of doing stuff. We CERTAINLY have come a long way from razor blades on the diagonal, with cellophane tape. :) Bob Bone
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 17:18:42
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Anderton
Preferences > Customization > Snap to Grid
Thanks! Now supplementary Q - how do I access it in the Snap drop down menu? Seems there are only beat settings (ie whole, half quarter etc)
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Re: clicking noise at the beginning of a clip when i split clips
2016/09/03 19:37:20
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robert_e_bone
We CERTAINLY have come a long way from razor blades on the diagonal, with cellophane tape. :)
OMG, the nightmares I still have about cutting up tape  . I spent all night once cutting up kick drum parts to achieve "the ultimate THUD". (well that and the drummer had a bum foot) about 6 hours of splicing and you know what Bob ? I could do that same thing in Sonar now in about 20 minutes LOL.
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