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Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start

A couple of problems.
 
1) THe program ALWAYS asks me for registration key EVERY time I start up , even when I start up as ADMIN.
 
2) THe program says that my previous files are NOT COMPATIBLE with the version of software I'm running. 
 
I installed 8.0 then patched up to 8.3.1
 
Perhaps I didn't follow a certain patch install sequence?
 
Or maybe I didn't use the right patch?
 
btw...anyone have the correct links to upgrade from SONAR 8.0 to the latest version that CAKEWALK allows (I'm assuming it's 8.3.1?)
 
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/02 21:51:48 (permalink)
I think if you purchase the latest SONAR (platinum), that would all that is required for the upgrading.  More information is readily available on the products page.
 
No idea about the registration key issue.  8.x hasn't been 'officially' supported in some time now.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 01:26:55 (permalink)
The most patch-current 8.x version of Sonar was 8.5.3, and was really a solid program, though at the time, very difficult to approach as a new user, due to the incredible number of keyboard binding shortcuts that folks spent a long time learning.
 
IF you end up checking out the free demo download of Sonar Platinum, there is a pretty good learning curve into transitioning from Sonar 8.5.3 to the current Platinum functionality and appearance.
 
Please also note that many folks STILL have Sonar 8.5.3 installed on their current computers, with it living happily alongside Sonar Platinum.  The can and DO live on the same computer quite nicely, AND there are some plugins that went away over time - between 8.5.3 and the current Platinum, so that is another benefit to keeping 8.5.3 on a computer.
 
 
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 04:53:45 (permalink)
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007012920/SONAR-8-5-3-AudioSnap-Update
 
You can work your way backward from there. 8.5.2 is required for 8.5.3. Previous versions generally needed to be installed prior to a subsequent upgrade.
 
Happy hunting.
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 13:45:59 (permalink)
8.5 was a paid upgrade from 8.0.
 
If you purchased 8.0 (like me) you can only patch up to 8.3.1.
 
IF you want to go from 8.3.1 to 8.5, Cakewalk will not let you unless you PAID for the upgrade (which I did not)
 
So, I'm stuck here in 8.3 hell with a program that will not work on my Win 7 pC.
 
Cakewalk does not respond to my numerous email support tickets asking them why their program which I paid over $200 for will not allow me to properly register my OWner's serial and reg key on my PC.
 
It's this kind of stuff that drives customers into class action law suits against companies. 
 
Cakewalk needs to either upgrade their existing customers into working versions of their software or make the commitment to supporting their products. 
 
I have valuable mixes that my SONAR program now refuses to open saying the current version in not compatible.
 
These mixes have a market value. Just curious how Cakewalk's legal department can defend blocking serial number and registration validation after selling a product to a consumer.
 
Once again, how dysfunctional is that?
 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 14:01:29 (permalink)
What "previous files" are not compatible? Is it that you cannot run projects created on an earlier version of SONAR in your 8.3 installation on Win7?
 
Did you run the installation file for SONAR 8.0 as administrator when you installed the program?
 
Have you tried running SONAR in XP compatibility mode?
 
What happens if you put the registration key in when the program asks you to do that?
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 17:50:04 (permalink)
What "previous files" are not compatible? Is it that you cannot run projects created on an earlier version of SONAR in your 8.3 installation on Win7?
 
ANSWER: Projects created with SONAR 8.3 installation on Win7.
 
Did you run the installation file for SONAR 8.0 as administrator when you installed the program?
 
ANSWER: YES

Have you tried running SONAR in XP compatibility mode?
 
ANSWER: I'm running Win 7. Why would I go backwards to see if it would work?

What happens if you put the registration key in when the program asks you to do that?
 
ANSWER: It allows me to move forward, but every time I close the program and restart, it asks for REG again.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 17:57:36 (permalink)
OK, Now I know what you mean by running it in XP compatible mode - it's upon start of the SONAR.exe file...
 
YEs, I went ahead and ran it in WIN XP compatibility mode. THe result? - Still doesn't open the file.
 
Program is still not registering  my KEy.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 18:49:06 (permalink)
Don't you get a free download of Sonar Producer 8.5 if you bought 8.0 version AFTER 2009?

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/03 20:53:19 (permalink)
support for Sonar 8 was discontinued long ago. so if your not receiving a reply, im not surprised.
the update for Sonar 8.5 is also not available anymore (as far as I know) I believe its only the X series there are updates for (still I could be wrong, but I don't think so).
 
anyway, have you tried running windows 7 as administrator ?
right click on the sonar Icon and choose "Run as administrator".
use the reg key as normal. then close the program and re open.
 
some of the sonar VST's (like Rapture) was like that. you needed to run it as administrator in order for it to take the reg code.
similar to this: https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013114/I-cant-enter-my-registration-code-it-says-Not-logged-in-as-Admin
 
hope this helps.
 
post edited by chuckebaby - 2016/09/03 21:18:20

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/06 12:31:16 (permalink)
<p>Don't you get a free download of Sonar Producer 8.5 if you bought 8.0 version AFTER 2009?</p>

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/06 12:54:58 (permalink)
In the past Cakewalk had offers to "buy now and get the next version free." They would happen a month or so before the new release. The deadline for such offers was around the release of the next version. There was never a situation where such an offer lacked a deadline. I do not recall if there was such an offer for 8.0 or the details but would not be surprised if one existed. Version 8.5 was released in Sep 2009.
 
I would look in the knowledge base for updates to versions X3 and older (including SONAR 8). My guess is the 8.0 updates are still there. AFAIK all the support pages which held the updates were all moved into the knowledge base a few months ago.
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/06 15:32:25 (permalink)
Unfortunately, there is no way to obtain a legal copy of 8.5. That's a shame, as it was a very good release and fixed a lot of issues from 8.3. It'd be a nice public service if CW offered it for sale, even on an as-is no-support basis. But that's not their business model; they'd prefer everyone to stay up-to-date (which, as a software developer myself, I can totally agree with - it greatly simplifies support).
 
Your previous purchase does, however, entitle you to a discounted price for the current version. I think it'll run you about $200, and that's with free updates forever. That's the route I'd recommend. You can buy SONAR direct from Cakewalk or from the major online retailers such as Sweetwater and JRRShop - same price regardless of where you get it.


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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/06 17:14:39 (permalink)
It looks like Sonar 8.5 was the first version that claimed to be compatible with Win 7. It is not at all unusual for application vendors to limit support to a certain version of the OS, but there are remarkably few complaints on this forum history about people being unable to run 8.3 on Win 7, which suggests that some people were able to do so. One thing that does keep showing up in the forum history is that you need to run the installation "as administrator."
 
I do not want to insult your intelligence, but many people do not know that there is a difference between running a program "as administrator" and running a program from an account that is a member of the "administrators group." In XP it was common to run everything from an administrator group account, which gave you pretty much administrator privileges. Since Vista User Account Control (UAC), has been introduced, and an account that is a member of the administrators group does not have the full privileges needed for all operations. In particular access  to locations and files (permissions and ownership) is not automatically granted to administrator accounts. If you have not already done so, I suggest you uninstall your Sonar 8 installation and reinstall it by right clicking the setup.exe file and choosing "run as administrator" from the dropdown menu. 
 
http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-run-programs-administrator-windows-7
 
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/07 13:41:56 (permalink)
@Slartabartfast - Yes, I installed program as ADMIN and I'm running in Compatibility mode for Win 7.
 
See POSTS #7 & #8
 
In addition, I just ran a 2nd test to confirm.
 
Program refuses to open previously save mixes saying they are not compatible with current version.
 
My program is still not accepting reg code and says I have 15 days left.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/07 14:05:16 (permalink)
If I understand you correctly, you previously had this version of Sonar (8.3) running in Win 7 successfully?
 
If that's the case, then something has gotten corrupted, and you'll need to do (at least) a clean uninstall and reinstall of 8.3.
 
And by "clean", I mean you uninstall the program, delete any leftover Sonar folders; then, in the registry editor, delete any remnants of Sonar.  Reboot, then install Sonar with latest patch.  (Do all of these with "Run as Administrator").
 
If the idea of possibly upgrading to Platinum (and the lifetime updates!) tickles your fancy... download the SPlat demo and start by  importing your old projects.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/07 15:49:54 (permalink)
If it is telling you you have a limited time left, that probably means that it has not accepted your confirmation code and you are still in demo mode. As I recall even back to SONAR 8 this was a two step process. You would put your serial number in, and Cakewalk would send you a code back that would unlock the program permanently. I can't recall if saving files was blocked while in demo mode then. I am pretty sure it is now. If that is the problem, then you will need to access your Cakewalk online account to get the proper credentials to unlock the program. Although Cakewalk may be unwilling to help with SONAR 8 problems, I expect they would feel obligated to helping you get into your account if an invalid registration code or serial number is the problem. No one else will be able to help you get those codes legitimately. 
 
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/07 17:37:49 (permalink)
To the OP,
 
Did you previously have Sonar 8.3 installed on Win 7 and running successfully?  Do you have a serial number, and if so, is it the one you used previously?
 
If the answer to both of those is "yes", then see my earlier recommendation. 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/09 16:46:47 (permalink)
Yes to both
 
I'm very wary about messing with Regedit....

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/09 20:48:05 (permalink)
I guess one question is if 8.3.1 was working under Win7, what changed so it no longer works?

Is this a previously stable and working installation that started acting up or a fresh installation on a new PC or....?

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/19 16:34:47 (permalink)
I did the clean install that involved regedit.
 
Reinstalled the program under ADMIN....and yes, it still DOESN'T register.
 
Still calling my valid reg code as invalid.
 
 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/20 20:37:03 (permalink)
Still unable to install my SONAR. Can anyone help, please?
 
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/21 09:59:28 (permalink)
My only thought is does running Sonar as Administrator solve the issue when trying to register work? I seem to remember having to do that with one of the old version and once it was registered it was fine.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/21 11:36:59 (permalink)
No, it does not help. In addition, I ran it in compatibility mode. 
 
SONAR tech manually placed my registration in a new account and now it will not register.
 
Can't fix it because Cakewalk is not responding to emails to customer support or PMs over past 2 months.
 
I called Gibson HQ, but they said the company does not have a phone number to transfer to....hummmmmm
 
Are they going out of business?
 
 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/21 15:13:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby karhide 2016/09/22 09:40:56
I just responded to your other thread about the same thing. Had I read this first I wouldn't have wasted my time.
 
Your software is obsolete and no longer supported. Bitflipper gave you the correct answer a few posts back and Cakewalk is not going to provide you with any support for your orphanware. I have a shelf of software that wont work any longer because of changes to my PC and OS.
 
You have to spend money for an upgrade or buy something else. Reaper is cheaper.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/22 14:42:33 (permalink)
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If I understand you correctly, you previously had this version of Sonar (8.3) running in Win 7 successfully?
 
If that's the case, then something has gotten corrupted, and you'll need to do (at least) a clean uninstall and reinstall of 8.3.
 
And by "clean", I mean you uninstall the program, delete any leftover Sonar folders; then, in the registry editor, delete any remnants of Sonar.  Reboot, then install Sonar with latest patch.  (Do all of these with "Run as Administrator").
 
If the idea of possibly upgrading to Platinum (and the lifetime updates!) tickles your fancy... download the SPlat demo and start by  importing your old projects.


I did a CLEAN install...It made no difference. I'm still getting the same invalid reg error.
 
Secondly, I'm not interested in upgrading at this point. The SONAR 8.3 program I bought works great with all my plug-ins at the moment. Cakewalk needs to honor my purchase and make my reg code work.

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/22 14:58:06 (permalink)
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I just responded to your other thread about the same thing. Had I read this first I wouldn't have wasted my time.
 
Your software is obsolete and no longer supported. Bitflipper gave you the correct answer a few posts back and Cakewalk is not going to provide you with any support for your orphanware. I have a shelf of software that won't work any longer because of changes to my PC and OS.
 
You have to spend money for an upgrade or buy something else. Reaper is cheaper.


Well, AmpFixer, sorry to waste your time. Of course, I never specifically requested your personal response so I find that odd and passive-aggressive that you are blaming me for wasting YOUR time.
 
I take offense that you call my $200 purchase of SONAR 8 in 2011 "Orphanware." It operated just fine on my PC and now it won't work on the SAME PC because SONAR screwed up by placing my reg code in a new account. The problem is CAKEWALK'S refusal to fix my purchased reg code, not the software itself.
 
I find your demonstrative mandate "You have to spend money for an upgrade or buy something else" completely ignorant to my issue. The problem is CAKEWALK'S refusal to fix my purchased reg code, not the software itself.
 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/22 15:14:21 (permalink)
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Cakewalk needs to honor my purchase and make my reg code work.


bobsacco
The problem is CAKEWALK'S refusal to fix my purchased reg code, not the software itself.


I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on the internet, but it does not appear that Cakewalk has any obligation to you. Take a look at the license agreement at the end of the Sonar 8 reference guide starting at 5. LICENSEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES FOR SELECTION AND USE OF THE PRODUCT.
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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/22 15:27:51 (permalink)
I read it but Bob won't like it. The warranty states the product will work as designed for 30 days. I have to say I'm surprized by the short time period but since it's dead software as of 8.5.3 I guess it doesn't matter.
 
Should I expect my copy of Sonar 2XL to work? That's my earliest windows version. 

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Re: Sonar says files are incompatible ----Also, keeps asking for REG key upon each start 2016/09/22 19:40:29 (permalink)
Just download the torrent like all the others! :)  It's obsolete and the company that sold it to you has changed hands so no point complaining. 
I have a copy of 8.5 I bought second hand from a friend, I was unaware that this was against the rules at the time. So I could not register it with Cakewalk.  But I have 2 numbers for it. A serial number you enter during install. And then an activation number you use the first time you run it which has to be "run as administrator in W7 64 bit.  I have installed this disk probably 10 times over the years and all I ever needed was those 2 numbers that came with it.   

Johnny V  
Cakelab  
Focusrite 6i61st - Tascam us1641. 
3 Desktops and 3 Laptops W7 and W10
 http://www.cactusmusic.ca/
 
 
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