Upsampling Addictive Drums 2

Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 

Klaus
Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 

I don't know if AD would benefit but that argument is not necessarily true. If the samples used were recorded at a higher sampling rate than the project sample rate, and the downsampling used by the synth is not high quality then you may still benefit from upsampling in SONAR. This is indeed why some synths sound different when upsampled.
 

Out of curiosity I went looking for that information myself, but was unable to find out AD's sample rate. I'm guessing Noel doesn't know, either. Obviously, it's a conspiracy.
 
However, I'd bet that it's 44.1 KHz, given the relatively small size of the libraries (1.0 to 1.5 GB) and the fact that sample rate is not mentioned in their advertising (vendors who offer high SR samples usually brag about it).
 
 

I couldnt find a definitive answer either as to what sample rate they were recorded at. I will try and upsample ad2 in a project and have a listen and then not up sample and have a listen and see if I can hear a difference. I dont really trust my ears in that situation though as I could suffer from placebo....

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Klaus
Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 

I don't know if AD would benefit but that argument is not necessarily true. If the samples used were recorded at a higher sampling rate than the project sample rate, and the downsampling used by the synth is not high quality then you may still benefit from upsampling in SONAR. This is indeed why some synths sound different when upsampled.
 

I stand corrected.
 
And sorry, sausy, for my misleading answer.
 
Best,
Klaus

Thanks, Dave. 
 
And "We automatically run through every imaginable scenario, searching for possible outlying conditions that might prove an exception." ...is actually something I really like and appreciate!
 
Best,
Klaus

Good day all,
 
I guess another question or answer would be what harm would having x2 on all the time do?
 
 
Cheers 

JohnEgan
I guess another question or answer would be what harm would having x2 on all the time do?

More calculations than needed so more of a CPU hit.
 
I am a big proponent of upsampling BUT only if it's relevant. The biggest effect is with processes that occur inside the box - amp sim distortion generation, limiting, synths with algorithms as opposed to samples, etc. One would think that if something oversamples already, upsampling wouldn't be necessary but that's not always the case.
 
I think the simplest solution is to listen to something upsampling and not upsampled. If you hear an improvement when upsampled, go for it.
 
This video will likely blow your mind...
 

Anderton
 
More calculations than needed so more of a CPU hit.

Thanks for reply and video reference,
So there's an obvious difference up-sampling with a 44K project sample rate, and not at 88K,  so if Im not starved for CPU power it may not be an issue, but sampling a lot redundant data? So as a follow up, as I usually record at 96K, would that be essentially the same as up-sampling at about 2x for any audio samples used in project that were recorded at 44/48K?
 
Cheers