Unknowen
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What a cool surprise!
I had to buy a drummer today to record a drum track.
Splat 22.9.0.36 and holding my breath for 3 days, setting up, testing entire chain of 14 mics, test recording, and then recording.
Flawless performance across the board! :) The most fun I've had recording... and not looking like a fool... (I only do that here)
Thank you Bakers!
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Cactus Music
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/12 23:18:54
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Awesome.. now back those up 3 times and carry on with the fun part. I love what you can do with our canned drums in Sonar but I still prefer a real kit played by a real drummer. My best tracks are still those recorded from the drums up. No click tracks.
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Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/13 00:28:14
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Cactus Music
My best tracks are still those recorded from the drums up. No click tracks.
yes to the first, no to the 2nd ;-) you realize you got a good drummer in front of your mics if he not only can play along to the click, but if he can grove against it i.e. play somewhat in front or behind the beat on purpose, just what the song sections needs and what the guys behind the glass tell him ...
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/13 13:19:22
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Cactus Music
Awesome.. now back those up 3 times and carry on with the fun part. I love what you can do with our canned drums in Sonar but I still prefer a real kit played by a real drummer. My best tracks are still those recorded from the drums up. No click tracks.
lol, cwb on the usb drive before breathing... :)
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MArwood
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/13 18:03:07
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CWB not very safe!
Use project folders instead. Or both is even better!
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Cactus Music
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/13 19:04:24
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You take the whole folder and copy it to a back up. Don't use CWB ,, they are no longer necessary.
Just copy your project folders.
Or us "SAVE AS" and point it to a different drive.
And just one back up is not enough,,, that will be the day a power surge takes out your main HD and the USB drive too.
My own work I can always redo , but any performances by clients I'm backing up to the max.
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 01:14:39
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Or us "SAVE AS" and point it to a different drive.
BTW, "Save As" also cleans up the audio directory i.e. it saves/copies only those WAV files that are used in the project and not the countless takes you threw away by hitting undo ...
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 13:31:20
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My best tracks are still those recorded from the drums up. No click tracks.
yes to the first, no to the 2nd ;-)
you realize you got a good drummer in front of your mics if he not only can play along to the click, but if he can grove against it i.e. play somewhat in front or behind the beat on purpose, just what the song sections needs and what the guys behind the glass tell him ...
Yep.
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 13:51:18
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Lots of good save ideas, I always have so many redundant saves in place now... whatever works. :) I don't get any power surges since the mid 90s, now I use Power Conditioners. I had at least 4 hard drives melt down in Austin TX in around a month. The power was so bad that my stove burner got too hot it melted a frying pan. lol
I just prefer simple... export CWB... I can only recall it not working one time with some MIDI data with Sonar 8
But it is great to know that there are other ways to save and backup. :)
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soens
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 19:00:19
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So what do you do with this drummer you bought when not using him? 
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Cactus Music
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 19:05:38
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I use drummers that don't need click tracks :)
No really, the best tracks I've recorded were with the core group of a band or even sometimes just me on pounding on an acoustic and a drummer live and muttering something close to what I wanted for lyrics.
Two people or more will keep the tempo going. And if keyboards need to be added latter they just don't get quantized.
Anyhow this is off topic . Well sort of, the word drummer was in the topic, right?
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/14 22:31:10
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just curious as to how you setup 14 mics on a kit and wondered what i am missing:
Kick,front and back.
Snare,top and bottom.
Hat.
Overhead,left and right.
3 or 4 x toms.
that makes 10- 11 mics
are you mic`ing ride and crash etc? or other percussion or what am i missing?
always keen to improve my setup.(you definately can teach an old dog new tricks)
thanks
tony
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 07:23:21
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webbs hill studio
just curious as to how you setup 14 mics on a kit and wondered what i am missing:
Kick,front and back.
Snare,top and bottom.
Hat.
Overhead,left and right.
3 or 4 x toms.
that makes 10- 11 mics
are you mic`ing ride and crash etc? or other percussion or what am i missing?
always keen to improve my setup.(you definately can teach an old dog new tricks)
thanks
tony
Room stereo + room mono would add to 14 ... actually the most important ones to me I'm sure we could find excuses to even hike mic count higher ;-)
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 12:35:21
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soens
So what do you do with this drummer you bought when not using him?
I sent him home to eat supper :) Then return next Wednesday.
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 12:44:09
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webbs hill studio
just curious as to how you setup 14 mics on a kit and wondered what i am missing:
Kick,front and back.
Snare,top and bottom.
Hat.
Overhead,left and right.
3 or 4 x toms.
that makes 10- 11 mics
are you mic`ing ride and crash etc? or other percussion or what am i missing?
always keen to improve my setup.(you definately can teach an old dog new tricks)
thanks
tony
Sure, I tell you and you tell everyone... ;)
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 12:47:16
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Rob[atSound-Rehab]
webbs hill studio
just curious as to how you setup 14 mics on a kit and wondered what i am missing:
Kick,front and back.
Snare,top and bottom.
Hat.
Overhead,left and right.
3 or 4 x toms.
that makes 10- 11 mics
are you mic`ing ride and crash etc? or other percussion or what am i missing?
always keen to improve my setup.(you definately can teach an old dog new tricks)
thanks
tony
Room stereo + room mono would add to 14 ... actually the most important ones to me
I'm sure we could find excuses to even hike mic count higher ;-)
I'd rather have too many mics setup then not enough. :)
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webbs hill studio
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 16:48:30
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Room stereo + room mono would add to 14 ... actually the most important ones to me
I'm sure we could find excuses to even hike mic count higher ;-)
yep,i have used all 16 preamps on a kit including 2 x NT1-A`s as room mics just to see and then spent ages muting most of them.
guess it depends on your room size,how well it`s treated and the drummer,of course.
thanks
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webbs hill studio
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/15 17:05:21
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Sure, I tell you and you tell everyone... ;)
isn`t that why we are here?
i doubt too many commercial engineers frequent this forum and if it`s good enough for Glyn Johns et al,
why not?
i will show you mine if you show me yours an we can all watch?
or better still,move this to the Coffee House where it definately won`t be seen by the competition.
cheers
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Re: What a cool surprise!
2016/10/17 15:43:31
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Sure, I tell you and you tell everyone... ;)
isn`t that why we are here? i doubt too many commercial engineers frequent this forum and if it`s good enough for Glyn Johns et al, why not? i will show you mine if you show me yours an we can all watch? or better still,move this to the Coffee House where it definately won`t be seen by the competition. cheers There is not a compaction here... you are over reacting to an illusion of humor. ;) So I set up 14 mics... big real... I may put one outside next to the house for that "outside by the house" sound or I may put one in the bathroom for that "in the bathroom sound". There is no point to how anyone mics a kit... I thought I was the only one who miced cymbals from under until I saw the CW how to mic a kit video and I mic them that way for the same reasons... There are NO rules in recording except for the people who think there are :) lol I PMed you back... ;) if you really need to see mine. also now I get to see yours.. ;) Peace my friend!
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