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2016/10/25 16:41:41 (permalink)
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Why does Cake want me to switch to protools?

I have been a loyal cakewalk customer for many many years. Today i tried using my x2 to create an mp3 file and it says I need an encoder. I purchased that long ago yet my option only option is to go to cakewalk.com. Cant find it on the website, navigation is impossible. cant call support they stopped tele support. it seems my option is to make an appointment. Thanks for mega unwanted hassle. I guess its finally time to switch. Thank you for letting me know you have gone from outstanding service to junk. Thank you for the heads up on switching programs.
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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/10/25 17:02:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveTrotta 2016/12/01 15:02:25
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Thank you for coming here and pouting instead of trying to get help. Enjoy Pro Tools, I hear it's just great.

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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/10/25 17:16:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2016/10/26 13:56:13
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Your product has been out of support for years. SONAR does not include and mp3 encoder. If you already the purchased the unlock program and do not see it in your account, see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3148924
 
If you have not purchased the mp3 activation and want it, here is the store page https://shop.cakewalk.com/1244/catalog/catalog.1307/category.60182/product.152233/
 
You can also integrate third party command line encoders, such as the free LAME tool, using the "External Encoder Configuration Utility" found in the the Utilities menu.
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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/10/25 17:37:05 (permalink)
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Yes I know my program is though not old and very functional considered out of date by you people. just because at the expense of upgrading every stinking year most users choose to skip two to three years before an upgrade. non the less and yes I did purchase the mp3 encoder which should come with the programs in the first place  as most work done these days is multi platform and of which the majority use mp3. My issue is that i no longer use the same address email and computer phone number etc. let alone version of sonar. I have had so many. I did how ever keep my receipt and have the validation number too enter but cant get to the part in my program to enter it. If the program came with the encoder like its should then trying transfer the darn thing from one to the other would not be needed. Yes we will sell you the car but pay a little extra if you want the wheels.
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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/10/25 17:50:44 (permalink)
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If you want the activation program added back to your account and cannot use the first process described in the link I provided, you will need to send email using the URL near the bottom of the link.
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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/10/31 17:35:17 (permalink)
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Also, note that if you don't keep pro-tools up to date you will not get any support either.  And their forum sucks as far as help goes.

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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/11/29 17:14:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveTrotta 2016/12/01 15:04:47
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Cakewalk passes on the charge for the MP3 encoder as part of their licensing agreement, with the author of the encoder.
 
The exact same encoder is available on the web for free, and there are others available as well.
 
Being as how you had already purchased the encoder - if you still have the downloaded unlock application, you could just run it again.
 
Otherwise, I suggest you follow scook's advice and contact the Cakewalk folks using the link from the Store, and give them your old email information OR serial number from your X2 purchase, and they should be able to look you up and merge your old purchase history with your new account.  THEN, you should be able to download the MP3 encoder unlock application from your Products page for your merged account.
 
Short term - you can always export from Sonar as a Broadcast Wave file and then use any one of zillions of freeware audio file converter programs to turn it into an MP3.
 
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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/11/30 14:25:34 (permalink)
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I agree that the lack of an MP3 encoder is annoying.  From what I understand, there's a way to use LAME with Sonar but I never figured out how to do it.   I kind of just accepted it and figure if I really need to export to MP3 at some point I'll just pony up for the encoder.
 
With Studio One, the MP3 encoder is included.  With Reaper, you just drop lame.dll into the reaper directory and it works. 
 
That being said, it seems like a pretty minor frustration that can be resolved by emailing Cakewalk.  In the meantime just download an encoder.  If you like Sonar other than that and are a loyal user, I'm not sure it's worth abandoning all your projects, paying for another DAW and learning it.  I use 3 different DAWs depending on my mood and there's things I like and hate about all 3 of them.

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Re: Why does Cake want me to switch to protools? 2016/12/01 15:54:40 (permalink)
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For whatever the worth - folks with account purchase history merging issues have finally been catching up to within a day or a couple of days when you email the folks supporting that - again it is my recommendation that you DO email them with whatever serial numbers and products you have info on - and they can and will get your account history properly propagated to your current account.
 
A few days back a friend of mine sent in HIS account purchase history - being in the SAME situation as yours, where he had old prior accounts/emails and such - and in literally a handful of days at MOST, his current account had all of his prior history properly merged.
 
SOOOOO - I believe you CAN get your prior purchase of the encoder associated with your current account, and can get that whole issue resolved pretty quickly and painlessly - certainly so, when compared to completely dumping Sonar for Pro Tools.
 
And - it is NOT Cakewalk squeezing extra money out of folks for the encoder.  Someone not connected to Cakewalk developed it, and entered into a license agreement with Cakewalk to get that licensing fee.
 
And there are multiple existing threads that describe how to configure one of the freeware MP3 encoders to work directly from Sonar - I suggest you use Google Search to look for them, using search terms like:
 
site:forum.cakewalk.com mp3 lame encoder manual configure Sonar
 
I actually ran a search using the above terms and it returned 108 results, and here are the links to the first few of them:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1255631
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1922300
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1426529
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2745061
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1568355
 
Most of the above threads will likely contain someone's complete description of the steps to manually incorporate an external freeware MP3 encoder into Sonar's export audio processing.  I will leave it to you to review any of the above, or other links from the search results, or to simply send the email to the store support folks and not have to do any of the manual encoding.
 
You should now have at least a couple of ways to address/resolve your issue with MP3 encoding in the Sonar export audio dialog.
 
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