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bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19)

I think I've narrowed it down to a bitbridge issue.  At least what I could find searching the net.  But no solutions that I've seen.
 
Until this last update, all 32bit and 64bit plugins worked perfectly.  Since the update I get the "teleport server" error when opening mixir2(32 bit) which locks up.  I can close it via the error dialog that comes up.  However, Sonar itself also locks up at that point.
 
As I am writing this, I decided to install the 64bit version of MixIR2 to see if that would make the difference.  However, in the preferences menu, under vst settings, the scan and reset buttons are grayed out.  I can not rescan the folders.
 
Side note: I was using the 32bit version of MixIR2 because of another 32bit vst called Chainer that is 32bit and only runs 32bit vsts.  FYI: Chainer is a vst host that can be used standalone, but is no longer supported and only ever was 32bit.  I have been using it as a guitar rig setup.
 
So I guess there are a couple things going on here that I can not figure out.  The grayed out scan/reset buttons.  And the what I think is a bitbridge problem.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 09:41:35 (permalink)
it's not an immediate solution but the best and most future proof one: try to eliminate all 32 bit plugins. I did that 2 years ago and it definitely improves stability and eliminates funky issues on your DAW.
 
virtually every plugin that is still being sold now should be available as 64 bit. for older ones there is usually a far better replacement, e.g. you could possibly replace your 32 bit chainer with either Sonar FX chains or if you need advanced routing, try DDMF metaplugin http://ddmf.eu/product/

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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 10:22:55 (permalink)
Disabled scan buttons mean SONAR cannot find the vstscan.exe either because the program is missing or the registry entry is missing or wrong.
 
By default the scanner is located in C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities
The registry entry for the scanner is HKEY_Current_User\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR\Cakewalk VST X64\VSTScanPath and the default value is C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\VstScan.exe
 
If the scanner is present and the registry key is missing, try holding the SHIFT key while launching SONAR. All SONAR to run the personalization process. If this does not work or the scanner is missing reinstall.
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 10:41:32 (permalink)
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it's not an immediate solution but the best and most future proof one: try to eliminate all 32 bit plugins. I did that 2 years ago and it definitely improves stability and eliminates funky issues on your DAW.
 
virtually every plugin that is still being sold now should be available as 64 bit. for older ones there is usually a far better replacement, e.g. you could possibly replace your 32 bit chainer with either Sonar FX chains or if you need advanced routing, try DDMF metaplugin http://ddmf.eu/product/


 
Very true!!  If you step up to all 64 bit you'll never regret it.

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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 11:37:16 (permalink)
I have to agree going completely 64 makes the most sense.  Unfortunately Chainer can only use other 32bit vsts.  I wish the guy that came out it still supported it.  Its super easy to use.  I pretty much use it as a standalone rig so I don't have to load up Sonar everytime I want to jam along with stuff or build tones.  But I end up using it in Sonar because because its so easy to recall my entire set up.
 
I suppose I could recreate the settings using Sonar FX chain.  The Metaplugin looks promising.
 
As far as the scan button goes...I do have the exe file in the shared utilities, however I don't have the registry folder "VSTScanPath".  Therefore no default value.  Can I manually edit the registry, if so how, or should I just reinstall Platinum?  Which I don't see an option for reinstall in the CCC.  Just uninstall.
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 11:38:22 (permalink)
FYI.  Holding the shift key didn't do anything.  The program wouldn't launch.
 
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 11:44:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bsheen 2016/11/07 14:42:31
Right-click on SONAR, hold the SHIFT key and click Open on the context menu
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 14:43:02 (permalink)
Bingo...that did it.  Thanks scook.
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 14:49:35 (permalink)
So is there no fix for the "Teleport Server not responding" error?  It seems strange to me that it worked well before the update.
 
Is there a way to tell if bitbridge is doing its job?  It also seems strange that it is only happening with the MixIR2 vst.
 
And for what its worth, I just had the 32bit vsts working until just getting the "scan" button working again.  Maybe something related there?
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 14:55:29 (permalink)
Bitbridge was last changed in May 2015. Does the problem go away when SONAR is rolled back?
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 15:13:46 (permalink)
I've only rolled back to the last update and it did not.  I haven't gone back as far as may 2015.
 
It seems like its only with the MixIR2 vst within Sonar.  The other 32bit vst open up ok.  MixIR2 works as long as I don't try to open it.  This only happens in Sonar and within the Chainer vst.  Chainer in standalone mode works fine.  You open mixir with no problems.
 
Once you try to open mixir within chainer in a project it gives that teleport error, and basically locks up sonar as well.  When you close out the error, everything looks normal in Sonar until you go to click on something then it locks up.
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 15:16:03 (permalink)
Note: I've just installed the 64bit application of mixir2 and it opens up in the fx block fine.  Obviously I can not test it with Chainer, because chainer only allows 32bit apps to be loaded.
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 15:16:53 (permalink)
But again everything works as it should in standalone mode within windows.
 
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 15:23:59 (permalink)
The only other thing in the SONAR environment would be a VST reset. If that does not resolve the issue then jBridge may work. The best solution when married to 32bit plug-ins is run a 32bit host. Even then, the plug-ins still need to be supported and maintained or expect them to fail at some point in the future if everything is updated around them.
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/07 16:05:12 (permalink)
Appreciate all the help. I will give that a shot and see what happens.  Thanks again!
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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/16 20:08:00 (permalink)
I had this happen 2x today on the same project, then rebooting each time. I’m using 2016.10  I've never had this happen before  - ever. There is a setting under preferences/VST/Bitbridge.
 
Mine was set to 132 mg for server 1. That seems too low, so I changed it to automatic (uses as much RAM as needed). Does anyone else know anything about this setting? It seems like automatic is a better setting.
 
Yet when opening Sonar again I see that my setting has changed to 0 mg for server 1. This is strange, maybe it’s not really a setting, but simply a report as to how much RAM is currently being used

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Re: bitbridge problem since 2016.10(22.10.0.19) 2016/11/16 20:13:21 (permalink)
I have yet to figure out why its happening other than the 32bit MixIr2 plugin does not like the latest update of Sonar.  The 64bit version runs fine.  And so far...(knock on wood) all other 32bit vsts are running fine.
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