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2016/11/09 16:04:07 (permalink)

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Anyone else missing TH3 after going to 2016-10 version?  It isn't even in Command Center?  Or under My Account.  Older TH2 is missing as well...
 
post edited by patm300e - 2016/11/10 16:53:00

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 16:22:45 (permalink)
Just check it out and it's still there in mine under 'Guitar' in the effects drop down.  But I don't see TH3 in Command Center, just TH2 listed under the 'Boutique FX Suite'

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 16:36:54 (permalink)
Yes, it is the Boutique Fx Suite.  It is installed, but the new install removed my Authorization code and I don't have a serial number to plug in there...It says it is demo mode.
 
 

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 16:42:27 (permalink)
There is no serial number for TH3 Cakewalk. If you hare having trouble using TH3 Cakewalk remove/rename %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 and reinstall the Boutique FX Suite.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 19:33:52 (permalink)
Thanks, I'll give that a try...

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 21:36:23 (permalink)
Nope, that didn't work.  Reinstaling boutique did not create %appdata%\Overloud\TH3.

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/09 21:48:08 (permalink)
Are you using Boutique FX Suite installer v1.0.1.16?
 
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/10 07:01:19 (permalink)
I use the Command Center, what ever is in there is what I am installing.

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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/11/10 17:11:17 (permalink)
I guess I missed the TH3 Cakewalk Edition Authorization under Settings and thought it needed a Serial Number:


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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 15:07:37 (permalink)
I have been in contact with support trying to figure this out. I don't even have Boutique suite show up, but yet have TH2 Cakewalk and TH3 and when I see that box is has no TH3 Cakewalk Edition. It's running in demo mode and been driving me nuts trying to figure out why. Says now I have 8 days left on demo. Want to get this sorted out in Sonar Professional before upgrading to Splat and causing more disruptions to my projects
 
 
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 15:33:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby marksjohnc 2016/12/04 15:50:31
Not having SONAR Professional, I have to rely on info provided by the April 2016 eZine. It says SONAR Professional includes TH3 in the Boutique Suite. It is pretty easy to trigger the full version Demo mode in TH3 Cakewalk. The only way I know to reset the plug-in back to TH3 Cakewalk is remove the folder mentioned above and reinstall.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 15:45:39 (permalink)
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Not having SONAR Professional, I have to rely on info provided by the . It says SONAR Professional includes TH3 in the Boutique Suite. It is pretty easy to trigger the full version Demo mode in TH3 Cakewalk. The only way I know to reset the plug-in back to TH3 Cakewalk is remove the folder mentioned above and reinstall.


Scook,
 
Thanks for the reply. Yeah there's that one and also this one in the next update: How to Download the SONAR 2016.06 Update
Open the Cakewalk Command Center. If you don’t have the latest version (CakewalkCommandCenterSetup_1.1.5.0.exe), please download it from the Cakewalk Command Center home page.
To download the SONAR 2016.06 core update, download from the core SONAR Artist, Professional, or Platinum category.
Platinum users should also download the Boutique Suite to install TH3 Cakewalk Edition (for Artist and Professional, TH3 Cakewalk Edition is included in the core program installer).
 
Funny thing is from the time I purchased Professional and downloaded it back in March of this year there was never a Boutique file listed that was yellow. I just recently stumbled on the issue when I was working on a needed guitar track. I will try to delete it and see if it shows up as needing to be downloaded again and see if it opens the Cakewalk version. Some weird goings on for sure. One other thing when the article mentions this: download from the core
SONAR Artist,Professional, or Platinum category. Does that not mean through Control Center? It should all show up in there correct? If so that's the issue as it never has shown up. Maybe I need to do a complete un-install of Professional and re- install it.
 
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 16:02:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby marksjohnc 2016/12/04 17:16:29
Yes, everything should be in the Command Center. References to the "SONAR core" mean the parent line in the Command Center for the SONAR installers. IOW, the SONAR Platinum/Professional/Artist line. Expanding the parent (the arrow at the far left of the line) should show several other installers.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 19:04:39 (permalink)
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Yes, everything should be in the Command Center. References to the "SONAR core" mean the parent line in the Command Center for the SONAR installers. IOW, the SONAR Platinum/Professional/Artist line. Expanding the parent (the arrow at the far left of the line) should show several other installers.


Scook, yeah everything is downloaded when expanded. Now I have that same image as above that says
But it's running in demo mode. I guess I'll have to wait till the demo runs out and it will act normally again?
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 19:09:53 (permalink)
Did you remove/rename %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 before re-installing? If not, I suspect the plug-in will stop working. The image refers to activating the FULL version. TH3 Cakewalk requires no authorization and does not run in demo mode. It is possible to launch the full version demo mode from TH3 Cakewalk though. It is not clear if you are really running the full version demo mode or confusing TH3 Cakewalk as the full version demo mode.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 22:41:24 (permalink)
Sent you a PM about this as well, but for whatever reason when I loaded it into a track for the first time it asked me to activate it. So I hit the activate button and then it said it was running in demo mode for 14 days. This is I'm guessing the full version running with all the amps and effects. Although it says TH3 Cakewalk at the top it's loaded with stuff that I know should not be there. As far as %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 I am not even sure what that is to be honest. I am a guy coming way up from Sonar 6,8 Producer to a whole new world 
Truth is I'm getting ready to wipe out everything and start fresh in Control Center :(
 
 
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 23:02:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby marksjohnc 2016/12/04 23:21:44
You have activated the full version demo. This turns the plug-in from the free TH3 Cakewalk version to a demo of the full commercial version of the product. I sent you are more detailed explanation to your PM.
 
%appdata%\Overloud\TH3 is shorthand for c:\users\[your username]\AppData\Roaming\Overloud\TH3
A folder which needs to be renamed/removed BEFORE installing TH3 again. This should make TH3 forget you turned on demo mode and restore TH3 Cakewalk. Again more info is in the PM.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 23:29:10 (permalink)
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You have activated the full version demo. This turns the plug-in from the free TH3 Cakewalk version to a demo of the full commercial version of the product. I sent you are more detailed explanation to your PM.
 
%appdata%\Overloud\TH3 is shorthand for c:\users\[your username]\AppData\Roaming\Overloud\TH3
A folder which needs to be renamed/removed BEFORE installing TH3 again. This should make TH3 forget you turned on demo mode and restore TH3 Cakewalk. Again more info is in the PM.


Got your message thanks! The weird thing is in control center there never has been a boutique suite. Sent you an image of whats in control center. That's what tech support is trying to figure out why it's not even showing up. Will go back at it tomorrow. Thanks again for the info as it makes sense now, I'm just forgetful some times.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/04 23:44:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby marksjohnc 2016/12/05 01:07:44
I have no first-hand experience with SONAR Professional. I can only go by what is written about its organization. If there are files missing from your account, support will have to handle that. It begs the question, how the plug-in got installed originally? Regardless, from the information provided, it does appear that the full version demo was activated. I believe the only way to get the free TH3 Cakewalk version back is removal of the %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 folder and reinstallation of the plug-in.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/05 01:10:15 (permalink)
Will take care of that tomorrow and get it back to the free version. Baffles me how it got in there with no file to download...LOL! Waiting on tech support to sort out why it's not showing up in download of command center.
 
Thanks again scook. Will post results when this is sorted out.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2016/12/05 12:08:12 (permalink)
  • Thanks again for the advice in this thread on the TH3 Cakewalk, especially scook, you were more than kind. This is what tech support had to say at overloud:
Hello John,

 
TH3 Cakewalk should work inside SONAR without asking for authorization nor entering demo mode. 
 
If it does, that happens in one of the following circumstances:
 
  • You are using TH3 Cakewalk inside a version of SONAR that is prior to 22.04.
    Only SONAR version 22.04 or above supports TH3 Cakewalk.
    To check your current SONAR version, click the "Help" menu in SONAR and choose "About SONAR".
    The version number will be displayed in the bottom left corner of the window that appears.
    If the version is older than 22.04, you can update it either using the Cakewalk Command Center that is installed on your computer, or by downloading the latest installer from the Cakewalk website, after having logged in and clicked the "My Products" tab.

  • You are using TH3 Cakewalk inside some other DAW that is not SONAR.
  • TH3 Cakewalk is designed to unlock its content only inside SONAR. If you use it inside some other host DAW, it will behave just like a regular installation of TH3, i.e. it will work in demo mode unless authorized.
 
  • You have tried to use some effect that is not included among those available in TH3 Cakewalk.
  •  In that case, TH3 will prompt you to authorize in order to "unlock" the model or preset that you have tried to use.
 
 
I was guilty of the 3rd one down on the list. Boy is my face red. Seems to be working as it should now.
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Re: Missing TH3? 2017/05/30 11:43:55 (permalink)
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Did you remove/rename %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 before re-installing? If not, I suspect the plug-in will stop working. The image refers to activating the FULL version. TH3 Cakewalk requires no authorization and does not run in demo mode. It is possible to launch the full version demo mode from TH3 Cakewalk though. It is not clear if you are really running the full version demo mode or confusing TH3 Cakewalk as the full version demo mode.




Hey y'all, 
   Not to bring up an old thread but...... after installing early access 2017.05, I now have this problem (I ended up with TH3 full version & it wants a serial# to activate).
   So.....I searched the forum & found this thread along with a couple other similar threads.
   I followed Scook's instructions as above, first deleted the folder, then I re-installed 'Engineering FX Suite' from the command center.  I still end up with TH3 full version.
   So I again deleted that folder (TH3) and this time I re-installed 'Boutique FX Suite'. I open SPlat and discover I ended up with TH3 full version again!  Ha!   

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Re: Missing TH3? 2017/05/30 12:02:18 (permalink)
It just crossed my old brain that I haven't actually opened TH3 for several months, so this switch to the full version could have happened sometime B4 the early access 2017.05 update.  

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Re: Missing TH3? 2017/05/30 15:22:26 (permalink)

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Re: Missing TH3? 2017/05/30 23:58:55 (permalink)
Thank you Pat, I had already read that.
I did figure it out though.  The first time (In CC) I had clicked to re-install Boutique FX Suite, that was wrong.
The next time I right clicked on Boutique FX and then clicked "roll back to 2017.05"  -  This worked. Now I am back to 'TH3 Cakewalk'
 
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