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2016/11/26 13:17:27 (permalink)

Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade?

I've been using Melodyne 2 Editor for a couple/few years....pretty happy with it overall (I've learned to deal with some of it's quirks and idiosyncrasies).
 
I got an email (as many of you might have) about upgrading to M4 Studio for $150.
 
When 4 first came out, I saw lots of online complaints about things not working properly, etc, etc....but I know they've released several updates since then.  Has this solved at least most of the problems people were having?
 
Does it have enough improvements, etc to warrant the upgrade?  I've heard that some of the coolest features aren't available within the DAW (multi-track adjusting for example)....I've never really used Melodyne standalone....so not sure that would work for me....
 
What do people think?  I'm not itching to throw money around unless it's truly made some improvements over my version (and can be used within the DAW)
 
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/26 13:35:09 (permalink)
For me, no.  I've only used it for audio to midi conversion.  That deal will come around again. It's not a must have for $150.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/26 17:30:41 (permalink)
Check here:   http://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/editions-and-technical-matters
 
Only you can determine if the upgrade is worth it or not.
 
I use Melodyne 4 Studio and it has been running perfectly under Sonar, i.e. no crashes or other problems.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/26 21:36:23 (permalink)
Mario, what do you do with it that you can't do with Editor v. 2?  I have version 2 Editor and I, like the original poster am contemplating upgrading, but I am not sure the added functionality is worth $150.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/26 21:42:43 (permalink)
In the new version, you can open any number of tracks at the same time, see all the blobs together on one screen, and adjust timing quite effectively and quickly.  This and the fact that it now opens in a few seconds make this upgrade invaluable for me.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/28 15:54:10 (permalink)
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Mario, what do you do with it that you can't do with Editor v. 2?  I have version 2 Editor and I, like the original poster am contemplating upgrading, but I am not sure the added functionality is worth $150.


Since you can't run both at the same time to a/b it is hard to compare.
 
However, they have made it clear that the tempo detection is vastly improved, so this means if you want to do tempo mapping (not play to a click track), and then have your recording create an accurate tempo map.  V4 is improved.
 
If you like to manipulate sound.  The Editors in Studio 4 are totally new, never seen anything else like it.  Resource heavy for realtime processing but supremely powerful.    
 
If you do entire mixed down track manipulation (say to change the key of a recording for band mates to practice to if you have a different singer, etc), Melodye 4 is much improved to do that, from the few tests I did.
 
 
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/28 18:46:23 (permalink)
Brian and Lynn, thanks for the info.  I may have to put the upgrade on my wish list (I think I might have missed the opportunity this Black Friday.)

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/28 18:52:56 (permalink)
M4 Studio is running very nicely for me. I thought I heard/read somewhere that SONAR would support the multitrack version via ARA, that is, I could open clips from multiple audio tracks at the same time. All I'm getting is one track at a time. Since this is the first time I've tried it, I'm assuming pilot error. Hopefully, Lynn can set me straight.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/28 19:35:32 (permalink)
Thanks for the responses....I opted to hold off for now.  In all likelihood, the price will come along again at some point.
 
Editor 2 is working more or less fine for me (a few weird glitches from time to time...but overall)....the main feature that interested me was the multi-track feature....if that's not available within Sonar, then what I've got will continue to be just fine for now.
 
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/29 09:41:21 (permalink)
Multi-tracking and Multitrack Note Editing – See and edit multiple tracks simultaneously
Sound Editor – Change the timbre by adjusting the balance between partials
Quantize to reference track – Carry over the timing of one track to another
 
for me the Sound Editor is worth the upgrade, especially for creative sound design.  Here's some info on it from the Melodyne website:
 
'With the Sound Editor in Melodyne 4 studio, you can edit the sound of your recordings – just like your music – in a more musical, detailed and inspiring way. From the subtle enhancement of envelopes and timbres to the manipulation of overtones, resynthesis and radical experiments in sound design.
Melodyne recognizes the notes and their overtones – also a decisive advantage when it comes to sound processing. While conventional equalizers only act upon fixed frequencies, Melodyne adapts to the audio material itself. Adjust the level of individual overtones within each track, shape the basic sound of each instrument, relate the timbre or envelope of each note to its pitch, bring out the character of each sound source.
The results are novel acoustically, often unique, invariably invigorating – yet the Sound Editor is intuitive and lends itself easily to creative use."
 
For more, check out the Sound Editor video:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol0OZ3xzsjs
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/29 10:43:08 (permalink)
John, I just highlight the clips I need before opening the region f/x and they're there.  Then click on the gray blobs to highlight and open them within Melodyne.  You'll soon get the hang of it.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/29 10:51:30 (permalink)
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John, I just highlight the clips I need before opening the region f/x and they're there.  Then click on the gray blobs to highlight and open them within Melodyne.  You'll soon get the hang of it.

Actually, that's what I think I was doing. Where I confused myself was expecting to see it look like it does when run standalone, that is, multiple tracks visible IN MELODYNE at the same time, like the tracks in SONAR.
 
Expectations can sure cause problems. 
 
So, to see if I understand correctly, if I have the Editor or Essential versions instead of Studio, I couldn't open Melodyne as a Region FX on multiple clips simultaneously. True?

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/11/29 11:33:45 (permalink)
I think Studio is the only version that works with multiple tracks.  If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/01 18:09:09 (permalink)
Well, now...apparently the new Sonar release actually works with Melodyne Studio's multitrack abilities within the DAW.... NOW I'm thinking I may have to go ahead and upgrade and spend the $$....curse you, Cakewalk and your constant, evil, stupid improvements.....   (I give the winky face, because at least one person would misinterpret my statement as being a serious attack on all things cakewalk/sonar and turn this into a nasty, bitter thread.....I'm just letting them know it's all in fun and I'm thrilled that the new Melodyne's features will now work within Sonar.... ....ooh..there it is again)

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 08:38:32 (permalink)
So....have decided to pull the trigger and get the new Melodyne Studio.....was going to pick up from AudioDeluxe (have ordered from them before)...but also checked out Everyplugin.com....haven't used them, though I have heard their name on this forum, so assuming they are legit and "trustworthy"....
 
My question....I've not done a Saturday order from audiodeluxe (or obviously everyplugin).....which would I be more likely to receive the registration code/ect TODAY (Saturday) so I have some time to get it installed and play around with it before another work week starts?  (I'd be heartbroken to order today and find out I won't get it until Monday....My productivity at work would completely SUCK that day)
 
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 09:16:17 (permalink)
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So....have decided to pull the trigger and get the new Melodyne Studio.....was going to pick up from AudioDeluxe (have ordered from them before)...but also checked out Everyplugin.com....haven't used them, though I have heard their name on this forum, so assuming they are legit and "trustworthy"....
 
My question....I've not done a Saturday order from audiodeluxe (or obviously everyplugin).....which would I be more likely to receive the registration code/ect TODAY (Saturday) so I have some time to get it installed and play around with it before another work week starts?  (I'd be heartbroken to order today and find out I won't get it until Monday....My productivity at work would completely SUCK that day)
 
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 09:17:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/12/03 10:04:36
Hmmmm....  Let's see....   
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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 09:23:02 (permalink)
Well....good enough for me.... ;)

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 09:32:30 (permalink)
Order placed!  (and now....we wait)

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 09:35:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/12/03 10:04:44
Code received....wow..that WAS fast :)

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/03 10:50:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/12/03 11:33:35
That's our Koby 

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/05 06:08:55 (permalink)
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Brian and Lynn, thanks for the info.  I may have to put the upgrade on my wish list (I think I might have missed the opportunity this Black Friday.)


Send them an email. The folks at Celemony are prettty keen to get everyone on their flagship product.

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Re: Melodyne 4 Studio....worth the upgrade? 2016/12/05 07:49:23 (permalink)
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Brian and Lynn, thanks for the info.  I may have to put the upgrade on my wish list (I think I might have missed the opportunity this Black Friday.)


Send them an email. The folks at Celemony are prettty keen to get everyone on their flagship product.

I am going to wait and see if they do an after Christmas sale.  If not, I will probably contact them.  Thanks.

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