PsychatoR
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sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
ok guys, i wonder, sometimes when i use automation for highs eq, sometimes i press play, the highs are ok, and press play to listen again, and the highs aren't the same, they sound less high. sometimes' ok sometimes not. and it's impossible to have a reference to finish it for once. any ideas? im really bored to waste my time. since more than 1 year i waste my time of life with that. tx  edit: i made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtK1MsH5VWo
post edited by PsychatoR - 2016/11/29 14:27:44
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 19:12:01
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If you pull up Pro-Q, can you visually see the filter gain changing? You have three instances of Pro-Q in your screenshot. What, exactly, are you automating?
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PsychatoR
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 19:45:19
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i dont know what you mean by filter gain but im automating one of them, and when i pull up that one, i see the audio analyzer graphic and the nod automation moving in that ff q2, but they are acting 1 sec before i hear the audio. maybe that could explain the problem. sometimes we put plugins who make the project a bit laggy. there's others plugins we dont see in the screenshot. sorry my english is limited.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 20:16:01
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I see from your screen shot there is some open tabs with other apps running.
possibly that app you are running in the background is taking up resources.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 20:20:07
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I see from your screen shot there is some open tabs with other apps running.
possibly that app you are running in the background is taking up resources.
that Utorrent app thingy nothing was downloading or uploading, i closed it up, but is still, this problem is there since years. ill try to make a video.
post edited by PsychatoR - 2016/11/28 21:46:00
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 20:54:07
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Delete X-Crackle and see if the problem persists. I would highly recommend doing any restoration first, and then applying other effects.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 20:55:33
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OK, I understand. You're hearing a delay in the equalizer's response, correct?
That could be an optical illusion. The automation nodes may just be offset. Try showing the bus waveform by clicking the Waveform Preview button (to the right of the Solo button) and then playing back the song. Comparing the automation to the waveform, are the nodes where you think they should be? Also, when you play back, does the Now marker move smoothly or does it jump?
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 21:39:49
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/28 21:43:10
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Delete X-Crackle and see if the problem persists. I would highly recommend doing any restoration first, and then applying other effects.
even if i remove it still the same. i have lots of others plugins we dont see, so i have to remove all plugins to make sure no lag? my god............
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 09:16:12
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Is the button labeled "PDC" in your control bar on? If so, turn it off.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 09:20:47
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Btw this doesn't seem to be universal problem with FF ProQ2 and Sonar because the combination works fine for me.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 11:19:49
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Your video shows very high disk I/O. That could be a factor. Try freezing the source track (but not the fx bin) to reduce disk activity, and see if that changes anything.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 14:26:15
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Your video shows very high disk I/O. That could be a factor. Try freezing the source track (but not the fx bin) to reduce disk activity, and see if that changes anything
yeah its disk space, its in red, ill free some space... i dont think its the problem tho but should help. sanderxpander, PDC is off, i didnt know about that one. is it good? i think the main problem is, i have too many plugins, somes make the audio laggy. like u saw on the video, when i press play, its long to start, and on the ffQ2 we also see it.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 14:41:42
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Give us some idea of what you're dealing with here.
System spec would be useful, as well as your hard disc setup - how many drives, size, application etc.
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 15:16:55
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dunno if it work, i just tried to add it like u in my "signature". not sure if it work, i see "signature" and "comment". Sonar Platinum 21.13 x64 I5 2320, 8Go ram, Win7 pro 64, 5 x 1Tb Internal Sata HDD 7200rpm mbr, internal m-audio delta audiophile 2496
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 15:18:22
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test, doesnt work....
edit: oh yeahh!
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 15:20:03
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my disk load is 18% max only. no big deal
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Re: sonar platinum, fabfilter pro q2 latency?
2016/11/29 15:38:32
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Your video shows very high disk I/O. That could be a factor. Try freezing the source track (but not the fx bin) to reduce disk activity, and see if that changes anything
yeah its disk space, its in red, ill free some space... i dont think its the problem tho but should help.
sanderxpander, PDC is off, i didnt know about that one. is it good?
i think the main problem is, i have too many plugins, somes make the audio laggy. like u saw on the video, when i press play, its long to start, and on the ffQ2 we also see it.
PDC bypasses plugin latency compensation for any track that has input echo on. It's mainly useful if you're recording in a project that already has a bunch of high latency plugins. It can make tracks of recorded material sound out of sync if you forget that it's on and you enable echo. If that doesn't solve your issue just leave it off and forget about it. While it is true that all plugins add "some" latency, for many/most plugins this is completely negligible and you would never notice. Specific types of plugins add significant latency, it would be worth figuring out if any of these are making things go out of sync: Limiters or transient designers (since they tend to use "look-ahead" techniques) Linear phase anything (e.g. ProQ2 in linear phase mode, or ProMB in linear phase mode). Convolution based reverbs like Perfect Space, IR-1 or Altiverb. Specific other plugins with look-ahead, like possibly some noise canceling plugs. You could delete these from your project as a test and see if the situation improves. To be honest though, I'd be surprised. Plugin latency compensation shouldn't have issues like this. I've never noticed any with ProQ2 although I don't always need to automate it. Is it at all possible that it's doing it at the right time in the audio but the image just doesn't line up? That could be a result of latency compensation.
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