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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/09 20:18:42
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Terry Alan Kath of Chicago
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Not sure if it's fair to mention him, but seems to me that Andy Summers didn't get the recognition (or enough) he deserved.
I think it's entirely fair, at least 2 of The Police's biggest hits wouldn't have happened without his riffs (Message In A Bottle and Every Breath You Take), and those huge-but-sparse chords in Walking On The Moon were just inspired.
Terry Kath, for sure, may he rest in peace. Not sure about Andy Summers. He always seemed more of an 80's guy. He never seemed much for lead playing (though he had major league chops.) How about Alex Lifeson? He is rarely mentioned, but has beautiful technique and solos originally and strongly. Ralph Towner is another rarely mentioned. Granted he's not a rocker, but what a musician. He's an amazing composer as well (and plays excellent piano.)
“Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy” is attributed to Benjamin Franklin perhaps in error, but the thought remains a worthy sentiment nonetheless. 
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/10 12:48:23
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Not sure about Andy Summers. He always seemed more of an 80's guy. He never seemed much for lead playing (though he had major league chops.)
Summers had quite a career before he joined The Police, starting with Zoot Money's Big Roll Band in the late '60's. He also played guitar on the orchestral version of Tubular Bells in 1975.
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 00:01:04
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Someone is sure making money off of him. A quick look at Discogs shows that 30 of his 32 albums were released after his death! https://www.discogs.com/artist/312317-Tommy-Bolin?page=1
Yikes, that's a lot! Still - I'm wondering what's the ratio for, say, Jimi Hendrix... Elvis must have the absolute record. I think they released 3 this year (including what's arguably my favorite album for 2016, so I am not complaining). I first heard him on Quadrant Four, by Billy Cobham. Afterwards, my roommate bought me a box set titled The Ultimate as a going away present. It was a nice introduction to Bolin's various projects and collaborations, from his early days with Zephyr to his work with The James Gang, Moxy, Cobham, Alphonse Mouzon and Deep Purple to his solo albums.
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 00:17:06
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bayoubill
Terry Alan Kath of Chicago
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Not sure if it's fair to mention him, but seems to me that Andy Summers didn't get the recognition (or enough) he deserved.
I think it's entirely fair, at least 2 of The Police's biggest hits wouldn't have happened without his riffs (Message In A Bottle and Every Breath You Take), and those huge-but-sparse chords in Walking On The Moon were just inspired.
This is excellent stuff. (Mind you it aint leo brouwer or paganini, but it's pleasant enough. He has good technique too!
Terry Kath, for sure, may he rest in peace.
Not sure about Andy Summers. He always seemed more of an 80's guy. He never seemed much for lead playing (though he had major league chops.)
How about Alex Lifeson? He is rarely mentioned, but has beautiful technique and solos originally and strongly.
Ralph Towner is another rarely mentioned. Granted he's not a rocker, but what a musician. He's an amazing composer as well (and plays excellent piano.)
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 00:23:11
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This is one of my teachers, stephen robinson. In the late 70's he was a young un and won several international competitions. He's the first guitarist to receive a doctorate from FSU guitar program. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmVttFSixak Florida has so many great guitarists, mostly connected to south america and cuba. All anyone knows are Segovia and his students like elliot fisk and chris parkening...but there are many, many great guitarists these days, thanks to those 70's players who were *underrated* and taught instead of touring.
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 22:15:52
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Not sure about Andy Summers. He always seemed more of an 80's guy. He never seemed much for lead playing (though he had major league chops.)
Summers had quite a career before he joined The Police, starting with Zoot Money's Big Roll Band in the late '60's. He also played guitar on the orchestral version of Tubular Bells in 1975.
Thanks! I was unaware. I stand corrected. Now, if he only soloed.... Can anyone think of any amazing solos from Andy Summers?
“Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy” is attributed to Benjamin Franklin perhaps in error, but the thought remains a worthy sentiment nonetheless.
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 22:19:38
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/11 22:22:04
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If my memory is right, I think Andy was classically trained. He's sort of like the edge in that he seems to view the function of his guitar vertically or stacked (harmonies) more than horizontally (solos, melodies). It's true in the jazz world as well: some players are known as incredible chord players, or chord-melody players more than as soloists of single line improvisations.
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/12 11:44:40
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If my memory is right, I think Andy was classically trained. He's sort of like the edge in that he seems to view the function of his guitar vertically or stacked (harmonies) more than horizontally (solos, melodies). It's true in the jazz world as well: some players are known as incredible chord players, or chord-melody players more than as soloists of single line improvisations.
Very well put David. here's Andy doing some very nice single line stuff though;
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/12 14:08:30
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I can listen to this style of stuff all day long. It's impossible to write a sad song in this style, it will come across as bittersweet. The musicians that play this type of music are like doctors that have taken the hippocratic oath : first, do no harm. ;:D
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Re: Underrated guitarists of the 70's
2016/12/12 14:17:33
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In a perfect world, I could listen to this stuff all day long.... See what I did dare? 
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