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January 04, 17 5:07 PM (permalink)

SONAR For EDM?

Hi I currently own Sonar Professional and am looking to make an EDM/Electropop song. However, I was hoping to add white noise sweeps and riser effects to my song and wondered if any one knows if I can achieve this within Sonar? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 04, 17 6:05 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Stebedos January 12, 17 7:27 PM
To me it all depends on what synth plugins you have.  I have been experimenting with EDM type stuff lately, and I tried a few other DAWs and came back to SONAR as the main DAW.  It comes down to the synths you have and the DAW to give you the workflow you are comfortable with.
 
FWIW, I recently picked up the AIR total bundle and it includes theRiser which specializes in those types of sounds.  A lot of synths have presets to get you started with that type of thing as well.

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 04, 17 7:05 PM (permalink)
This should get it done
 
I got this with the AIR collection.  It does just one job, and this is it!
 
The Riser Tutorial - Designing Transitions
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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 04, 17 9:35 PM (permalink)
I have Reason 9 as well as SONAR and it is very popular with the EDM crowd, FWIW.

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 0:30 PM (permalink)
iZotope's Stutter Edit is a nice tool for doing a lot of EDM processing and effects. The name is a bit of a misnomer, since the stutter feature is only one of a gambit of features that it has. In fact, most presets have the stutter enabled, so simply turning that off lets you delve into it more deeply (the stutter can be a big distraction TBH). Each parameter exposed can be tailored for sweeps and processing, and may be an easier alternative to doing it within SONAR - static sweeps as samples are simpler than dynamic ones, unless you are savvy with synths (although that option is viable, it is not "quick and dirty").
 
iZotope does 10-day fully functional trials, so is worth seeing. It is also 80% off at the moment.

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 8:17 AM (permalink)
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iZotope's Stutter Edit is a nice tool for doing a lot of EDM processing and effects. The name is a bit of a misnomer, since the stutter feature is only one of a gambit of features that it has. In fact, most presets have the stutter enabled, so simply turning that off lets you delve into it more deeply (the stutter can be a big distraction TBH). Each parameter exposed can be tailored for sweeps and processing, and may be an easier alternative to doing it within SONAR - static sweeps as samples are simpler than dynamic ones, unless you are savvy with synths (although that option is viable, it is not "quick and dirty").
 
iZotope does 10-day fully functional trials, so is worth seeing. It is also 80% off at the moment.




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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 8:24 AM (permalink)
Then there is this Sonivox Wobble, on sale 84% off, today Jan 5th last day!  $16
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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 9:44 AM (permalink)
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            Thanks for the info on these neat plugs and the special pricing! 

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 10:17 AM (permalink)
I know musicians making EDM without any DAW. They use an AKAI MPC and some hardware-synthesizers and record them to reel tapes. Using hardware equalizers and limiter. Then they send them to us to digitaze the tapes to make a CD-Master.
We ourselves use Sonar for EDM since 1995 and we use a lot of Hardware- and VST-Synthesizers.
It's a question which Synthesizers (VST, Hardware) you are using - not a question of SONAR.
 
 
 
 

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 10:23 AM (permalink)
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Hi I currently own Sonar Professional and am looking to make an EDM/Electropop song. However, I was hoping to add white noise sweeps and riser effects to my song and wondered if any one knows if I can achieve this within Sonar? Any help would be greatly appreciated!




I can't find a list of what synths Professional comes with, but if Dimension pro is there are some white noise up sweeps and down sweeps and a pink noise that could work with you setting up a bandpass EQ on the channel and automating the sweep to your taste.  Or if you have Rapture Pro it has a very nice white noise element that with the EQ sweep you can get the same result.

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 11:12 AM (permalink)
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Hi I currently own Sonar Professional and am looking to make an EDM/Electropop song. However, I was hoping to add white noise sweeps and riser effects to my song and wondered if any one knows if I can achieve this within Sonar? Any help would be greatly appreciated!




 samples and volume envelopes...there are endless collections of samples out there for this

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 11:46 AM (permalink)
Z3ta (all the various versions have swoops, sweeps etc). 

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 11:50 AM (permalink)
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Z3ta (all the various versions have swoops, sweeps etc). 




I have yet to find any white noise anything in the original Z3TA+, in Z3TA+2 there is some decent white noise but the quality from Rapture Pro is a lot better, however even with it there are some workable flaws

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 12:21 AM (permalink)
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Hi I currently own Sonar Professional and am looking to make an EDM/Electropop song. However, I was hoping to add white noise sweeps and riser effects to my song and wondered if any one knows if I can achieve this within Sonar? Any help would be greatly appreciated!



Certainly it can be done in SP and the tools folks have suggested will help greatly.  SP is not the very best suited or streamlined tool for EDM but you will become a better producer and more powerful and swift user of the program by learning how to use SP to produce EDM.
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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 12:44 AM (permalink)
I played around with the demo of Stutter Edit.  This is unique in that it is a playable live effect using any audio input or sample.  These are then processed or transformed live by the "gestures" (presets) assigned across the keys of a MIDI keyboard or pad controller.
 
The other plugs mentioned are synth instruments that generate their own sounds, rather than effects on an audio input.  You could do this with z3ta+ (it has a noise wave in the oscillator, try with patch "reduced swell"), Pentagon, or a few other synths with a little effort.
 
But the setup for Stutter Edit is the same as a vocoder such as VocalizerPro.  You insert it as an effect on an audio track, then route a MIDI track to it to play it live.  By playing the keyboard you "play" (trigger) the effects via MIDI as the original audio source is being processed.  It does have a generator as well, to produce sweeping noises and such.
 
I guess it comes down to whether you need to produce effects during a live performance, or if you are content to edit your tracks in the studio.  It's up to you how much time saving you wish to pay for.

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Re: SONAR For EDM? January 05, 17 4:20 PM (permalink)
Stutter Edit has two modes for gestures, taking a sample as per above and the "generator" setting. That setting inserts new sound material (sweeps, tones, etc.).

The slider bars under each active parameter are also handy as they will quickly adjust attack, duration, etc.

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