katsuneshinsengumi
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Guitar tuner plugins?
Hey guys,
I've been looking around the internet for a guitar tuner plugin that can tune on half-step down. I tried TH3 which is a very useful amp sim by the way, I've been using it alot but it can only tune on standard based on what I've tried so far.
Any recommendations?
Thank you,
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 00:23:10
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☼ Best Answerby katsuneshinsengumi 2017/01/02 01:33:16
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 01:33:13
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scook
A couple of free solutions
GTune
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MTuner
Hi Scook thanks, I tried the MTuner, although I can't find a preset for half step down, I was able to use it. For the time being use this until I can find a tuner with half-step down preset. Thank you,
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 02:28:04
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Looking at MTuner, there are two ways
1) Tune flat by 50 cents
2) Adjust the base frequency knob to 427 Hz
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 02:39:01
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I tried it and it also works. But I prefer to stay at 400hz while fishing for the previous # notes of what string I'm tuning. That way I'm still looking at the center of the tuning meter. Thanks for the info though, I actually don't know the use of the base frequency, I thought it just means that the tuner will listen at 400hz and base the current tune on what it will hear on that frequency.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 02:53:35
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 Concert pitch for A=440, so when you play A 50cents flat i.e. half a step down, A becomes 427. So if you set Base pitch to 427, all the notes are shifted half a step down. So when you play the open A string with the Base pitch set to 427, the Mtuner will be centred at zero cents. You won't need to adjust this for you other strings, all these will now re-calibrate to half a step down when centered with the base frequency set to 427
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 03:09:25
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Concert pitch for A=440, so when you play A 50cents flat i.e. half a step down, A becomes 427. So if you set Base pitch to 427, all the notes are shifted half a step down. So when you play the open A string with the Base pitch set to 427, the Mtuner will be centred at zero cents.
You won't need to adjust this for you other strings, all these will now re-calibrate to half a step down when centered with the base frequency set to 427
I tried to tune in halfstep down through my phone, then plug my guitar to may audio interface and I set the base frequency of MTune to 427. After I tested the MTune it seems like it's still not centered, it was around -50 cent. Am I missing some adjustments here? How can I make it centered? 
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 03:32:24
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427/4=106.75
Your tone is reading 103.9, so it's a flat A1 with a 427 base frequency.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 03:39:34
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☄ Helpfulby katsuneshinsengumi 2017/01/07 00:16:51
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 11:32:55
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Peterson Strobosoft. It's not a plugin, but about the best software tuner there is in my opinion.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 11:35:45
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Peterson Strobosoft. It's not a plugin, but about the best software tuner there is in my opinion.
Strobosoft can be run as a VST plugin. Been a while since I've used it... but I remember loading it as a VST Plugin.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 12:10:09
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The Strobosoft runs under a bridge thingy...or at least it used to. It was a pain so I only use it in standalone mode. All my emulators have tuners anyway.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 12:25:09
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IF you have a tuner that wont let you tune down a half step there's a very easy work around. Capo your guitar on the first fret and tune to standard tuning. When you're done just take the capo off.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 14:16:46
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2017/01/02 16:56:09
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IF you have a tuner that wont let you tune down a half step there's a very easy work around. Capo your guitar on the first fret and tune to standard tuning. When you're done just take the capo off.
Yep, that is how we use to do it when we had a singer who's natural singing key was Eb.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 16:57:08
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 17:24:55
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Peterson Strobosoft. It's not a plugin, but about the best software tuner there is in my opinion.
Strobosoft can be run as a VST plugin.
Been a while since I've used it... but I remember loading it as a VST Plugin.
It uses what Peterson call a "microhost" to run as a VST or AU plugin. As Yoropal says it isn't (well, wasn't when I last tried it ages ago) as reliable as using it stand alone. It made a bigger cpu hit as a plugin as well if I recall correctly.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 17:32:45
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IF you have a tuner that wont let you tune down a half step there's a very easy work around. Capo your guitar on the first fret and tune to standard tuning. When you're done just take the capo off.
Then all you have to do is correct for however sharp the capo might have pulled each string..... A chromatic tuner is a useful investment if you use multiple or unusual guitar tunings or capos. Not even a Shubb can be consistently fitted without pulling at least one string sharp sometimes.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 19:26:09
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Kamikaze
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
Yes I mean making the standard tuning in flat. I actually don't understand a semi tone or half semi tone. I'll try your new suggestion this weekend. Thanks,
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 19:29:06
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tlw
Peterson Strobosoft. It's not a plugin, but about the best software tuner there is in my opinion.
I'll check this one on the weekend, thanks
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 19:29:07
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tlw
Peterson Strobosoft. It's not a plugin, but about the best software tuner there is in my opinion.
I'll check this one on the weekend, thanks
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 19:32:18
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ampfixer
IF you have a tuner that wont let you tune down a half step there's a very easy work around. Capo your guitar on the first fret and tune to standard tuning. When you're done just take the capo off.
I'll do this if I really cant find a better solution, also I don't have a capo right now. Thanks,
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 19:33:07
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 20:12:55
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I've been using TB Strobe Tuner for years now. You can actually create your own tuning files within 0.1 cents. I've created sweetened tunings based on forum searches that are quite useful. It's also free. http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/02 21:47:57
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A good chromatic tuner should be sensitive over the entire range. Tuning 50 cents flat is not an issue other than the target pitch is not dead center. A tuner showing cents sharp/flat is preferred regardless of tuning choice (over colored LED styles).
The capo idea is good as well, but I would suggest finger-fretting each string rather than a capo itself. As mentioned above, they can pull all strings sharp depending on placement, capo spring tension, and fret height.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/07 00:15:39
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Kamikaze
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
Hi Kamikaze, setting the base fequency worked. Thank you so much.
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/07 07:08:50
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Kamikaze
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
Hi Kamikaze, setting the base fequency worked. Thank you so much.
I'm glad I was eventual of some help  BTW, when you installed the Tuner, did you just download the Tuner? or did you download the Installer, and the whole free pack? And if the later, could you just install the Tuner from that, or did you have to add all the free plugins from the installer?
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/09 21:43:52
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Kamikaze
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
Hi Kamikaze, setting the base fequency worked. Thank you so much.
I'm glad I was eventual of some help
BTW, when you installed the Tuner, did you just download the Tuner? or did you download the Installer, and the whole free pack? And if the later, could you just install the Tuner from that, or did you have to add all the free plugins from the installer?
I installed the whole free pack, I didn't noticed an option to only pick the tuner, but I might also just have missed it because I didn't really paid attention on the installation process. Thank you,
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Re: Guitar tuner plugins?
2017/01/09 21:43:53
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/01/09 22:52:22
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Kamikaze
Ah, wait, sorry. When you hay half a step, do you mean a semitone, or half a semitone.
I think I may have just messed you around.
If you want it to read as Ab, then you can just use the tuner to read one semitone flat, or set the base frequency A to Ab which is 415.305
really sorry if I misunderstood and confused
Edit: yeah Ab1 =103.82625
Doh, sorry
Hi Kamikaze, setting the base fequency worked. Thank you so much.
I'm glad I was eventual of some help
BTW, when you installed the Tuner, did you just download the Tuner? or did you download the Installer, and the whole free pack? And if the later, could you just install the Tuner from that, or did you have to add all the free plugins from the installer?
I installed the whole free pack, I didn't noticed an option to only pick the tuner, but I might also just have missed it because I didn't really paid attention on the installation process. Thank you,
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