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2017/01/05 13:30:05 (permalink)

Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors

Hello All, 
 
I am really enjoying the Tungsten theme with Sonar Platinum.  Most things are really working well for me and I am thankful to the Bakers for all they have accomplished with Platinum. 
 
I am,however, wondering when will we ever be able to add color fully to our tracks and Channel strips.   Personally, I am not fond of just the small area at the the end of the track and console view assigned for changing the color for each track or channel strip.  It is much easier to fully see the groups of instruments when the colors are fully visible, not just at the end. 
 
I know fill track and channel strip colorization is still available for used in the Mercury theme in Platinum, however, how come it's not available for use with the Tungsten them?  

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 13:41:04 (permalink)
Apparently the integrating themes and colored strips is a nontrivial task. You may recall the strip color option was new in X3, years after the introduction of the Skylight interface in X1.
 
It is a popular feature request http://bakery.cakewalk.com/Idea/12154/Please-bring-back-coloured-strips-in-Tungsten
 
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 13:58:20 (permalink)
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Apparently the integrating themes and colored strips is a nontrivial task.

 
This is my understanding as well. Cakewalk is aware that many users want this.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 18:57:38 (permalink)
you have my vote. I really didn't think this would be such a big deal at first but I am really missing those colored strips.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 21:39:03 (permalink)
Not just in tungsten. It should be for all themes. Alternative ideas have also been put forward, such as borders, Fader caps. Being the idea is so popular I wish they had implemented something, being something was removed with out any explanation.

 
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 22:14:43 (permalink)
Yes! I still use the Mercury theme even though I really dig the Tungsten color theme. And I'll stay with Mercury until the other has color strips.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/05 22:59:21 (permalink)
Same here. Even though I love Tungsten, I had to go back to Mercury for the colored channel strips. I really hope they can fix this. I know there are other DAWs out there with dark themes that also have colored channel strips. 



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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/01/06 07:50:55 (permalink)
If they want to make it an option then so be it, but please, please, please don't take away the ability to not have it! The only reason I bought Plat was to get the dark console view back and banish forever the dreary grey or play school colour scheme options.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 07:09:40 (permalink)
The Color strip option says "Mercury theme only". That's clear. This feature is discontinued.
 
I don't know why, when the software designers in general "innovate", that means downgrade. Ten or fifteen years ago, for example, we had 3D color icons, and the software manufacturers said that it would be a revolution for our efficiency, because it could help us identify things quickly. Now we've got dark software with flat, black and white icons and logos. That must be technical progress...
 
It's a pity because Tungsten is so beautiful! But it's not usable for me.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 13:15:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/02/14 20:40:02
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This feature is discontinued.
I don't know why, when the software designers in general "innovate", that means downgrade.



It's such a shame that Mercury with colored strips is no longer available! /snark
 
Cakewalk did not take anything away. I don't get the complaints. Submit a feature request, and move on. Use Mercury if you absolutely have to have full colored strips, and enjoy the other great features added to the product in the meantime.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 14:45:19 (permalink)
I agree and would LOVE colored strips again.  Even just a difference in color between tracks and busses in console view.  Changing the color of the faders is not enough!

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 15:20:26 (permalink)
I'm used to Tungsten now, but the colored strips GUI was one of the main reasons I upgraded Sonar versions.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 18:01:39 (permalink)
Don't fret too much. A while back they said they were looking into colored strips for themes. Could be one reason they've been so quiet lately as it will be a huge task to make happen.
 
Personally I like the idea but am OK without it too.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/14 20:09:09 (permalink)
I'm still hoping for coloured strips in Tungsten too - and while I'm hoping, I also wish for a choice of nice, rich, deep colours to be available to be used for the whole strip, like the ones we can now use in the small border area. The Mercury pastels (the same colours as the border strip, but with lots of white added) are nice, but sometimes you want the visual punch of the original, non-lightened colour.
 
 
If it does prove too complicated to implement entire coloured strips in Tungsten, the option of selecting various richly coloured fader caps would come as a very welcome second choice.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 02:25:28 (permalink)
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Not just in tungsten. It should be for all themes. Alternative ideas have also been put forward, such as borders, Fader caps. Being the idea is so popular I wish they had implemented something, being something was removed with out any explanation.


That is what's bothering me about whatever The Bakers are doing.  I'm very happy with SPLAT but the rolling updates have not provided enough information for my taste the last few months.  It's mostly been minor things but there hasn't been much explanation for what will happen as a result of the updates.
 
I know there's no way that they can predict every eventuality, but some do have predictable outcomes for most of their users.  And now we lose the Ezine and get less info.
 
The Track Strip colors is a big deal to very many of us who loathe the Mercury theme.  I was using Duckbar in X2 when I downloaded (for a looong time) X3, and when I giddily launched it I saw that grey/dull chrome and my heart sank for a few moments until I snapped out of it.
 
But overall I want much more information with the changes they make, so I don't get so immediately frustrated.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 06:40:52 (permalink)
The thing to realize with colored strips is the fact that Mercury is embeded within Sonar's operational files (exe & dll). Tungsten and 3rd party themes are outside that arena and are kinda like grafted on thus making them unable to utilize strip colors in the same way Mercury does.
 
The fine folk @the Bakery have to figure out how to extend the current colorization method to include the "foriegn" themes or else design a whole new way of implementing it. Either way, it will be a difficult and time consuming thing to do.
 
If they are currently deep into R&D then we should be patient as something will eventually materialize.
 
If they stashed it deep under a pile of more important issues because they're stumped or gave up, we may never see or hear anything about it as it fades from their consciousness.
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 07:19:50 (permalink)
This is only my opinion, but im guessing they probably had a working version of colored strips in Tungsten but some of the colors were probably a little darker than normal. So rather than release that to us, they probably debated...
 
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Developer #2- "We cant, our forums will blow up with users complaining that Yellow looks like Gold".
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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 08:33:19 (permalink)
While we're on, please let me select a default background color for ALL clips on a track. It's a pain to have to set the color for every individual clip after you've recorded it.

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 09:40:37 (permalink)
i'd be surprised if themes got any more changes in the coming season...

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 10:33:23 (permalink)
If they made the little color bar at the bottom of each track or bus taller, say 3/8" that would be enough for me… 

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 11:08:36 (permalink)
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If they made the little color bar at the bottom of each track or bus taller, say 3/8" that would be enough for me… 


what about us Europeans who work in cm? :-P

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Re: Tungsten Theme needs full Track and Channel Colors 2017/02/15 13:05:58 (permalink)
0.9525 cm would work...

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