PRAKASHXAVIER
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Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
Hi I'm using Sonar Professional. I create a soft synth track with SI Drummer. I have one track which is a kick drum wav track. I try to move the track over to the soft synth track and i get a message saying 'Audio Mix in Progress' but nothing gets converted on the Soft Synth track. I dont see any MIDI data on the soft synth track. Any help is appreciated
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 02:39:00
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What happens if you leave the track where it is, select it and press CTRL+M? Melodyne should open.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 02:39:13
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PRAKASHXAVIER
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 02:57:38
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Thanks Sander. Much appreciated. I've not tried Melodyne. I would consider myself a noobie at audio production. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the tip. :)
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 10:09:04
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I'm only asking because Sonar's audio to midi conversion relies on Melodyne. Dragging an audio clip to a midi track basically "runs it through" Melodyne. Perhaps you didn't install it properly?
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Cactus Music
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 10:47:18
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I just did this last night. Insert a new midi track Drag a bass audio track to the new midi track. Sonar message that Melodyn is converting to midi. I now have a midi track of my real bass playing. This has got to be the easiest thing I've ever done in Sonar! Assigned the output to SI Bass, had to transpose up one octave. Took about a half hour to clean up the glitches , but I now have a midi track that is played on a real bass so it sounds the same more or less. I had never used this feature before until last night and I'm impressed. I've gotten pretty good over 30 years at playing bass parts into midi using a keyboard. But you can't play them the way you do when you are a real bass player. I wish I had this 30 years ago.. it would have been a dream come true back then.
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 12:16:23
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Cactus Music I just did this last night. Insert a new midi track Drag a bass audio track to the new midi track. Sonar message that Melodyn is converting to midi. I now have a midi track of my real bass playing. This has got to be the easiest thing I've ever done in Sonar! Assigned the output to SI Bass, had to transpose up one octave. Took about a half hour to clean up the glitches , but I now have a midi track that is played on a real bass so it sounds the same more or less. I had never used this feature before until last night and I'm impressed. I've gotten pretty good over 30 years at playing bass parts into midi using a keyboard. But you can't play them the way you do when you are a real bass player. I wish I had this 30 years ago.. it would have been a dream come true back then.
That's a neat trick for sure. I have some bass .wav loops from SmartLoops. I tried this out with a few loops and it worked very well. The only cleanup I had to perform was to transpose the MIDI part +12 semitones (octave), to match the virtual bass plugin that I used.
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 17:55:54
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To convert audio to midi try the following: A) open a track in TTS1 B) copy and paste the audio track you are trying to convert to the TTS1 track. This will probably be a piano sound. C) open a new track for the instrument that you want....ie...bass....synth...brass....whatever D) copy and paste the info from the TTS1 track to your new track. This should have given you what you require. Good luck. Gerry
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 18:57:35
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You don't need a Soft synth to make the conversion. You only need a empty midi track. Of course if you so choose the other method but I thought I'd keep it simple. Then you can point the midi track at any synth you like. Keeping midi tracks separate makes it easier to try different synths. They've made it dead simple and it works. As said once it converts: Open in PRV so I can see the approximate note timing. Process transpose +12 to match the range of SI Bass Process Quantize and whatch that the notes don't jump too far, listen. Play through making minor edits, mostly a lot of overlapping notes and the odd false trigger, but otherwise it matches the original 99%. I've been doing this all day converting some older backing tracks. The original real bass was played perfectly but the sound I had back then was terrible. I'm finding the SI Bass with a few tweaks sounds exactly like my Yamaha bass. The results are very good so far. It will also help even out the sound of the bass from song to song. I'm also converting all my drums tracks to a custom kit I made by recording my own snare samples.
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/17 19:03:56
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Cactus Music Process transpose +12 to match the range of SI Bass
Hey Johnny! If you are still using the SI Bass, which is cool, you may want to check out the free Ample Bass P II Lite ... http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=19 Good sound!
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PRAKASHXAVIER
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 04:20:00
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Thank you for your replies guys..I guess I'll post a video of what I'm doing and what the output is like. No luck at my side so far.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 05:36:43
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Were you able to open Melodyne?
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PRAKASHXAVIER
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 09:57:40
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Yes I had to install Melodyne and it seems to work. I need to figure out a way to quantize and make it sound clean. Its still a work in progress but I'm happy :) Thank you so much.
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 10:31:21
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The mono tack has to be simple and clean. One little string squeak will throw it off. It works great on bass but not sure what it would do with my singing :)
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PRAKASHXAVIER
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 10:39:37
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lol. I'm trying to use a kick drum..however the track has some bleed from the other drums. I'll have to figure a way to clean that up.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 11:26:52
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So your original error was fixed? You could use a gate to clean up the audio before throwing it on the midi track.
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 19:10:43
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For a kick drum you should use drum replacer. It has a simple to use slider where you can see the transients and quickly get a good setting. I haven't figured out how you turn it into a midi file yet but there is a few kick samples built in that might work for you. I tried the melodyn drag and drop on a real snare track. There was no bleed I played it solo. It created about 6 lanes of midi notes. I figure there's a dialog somewhere to set it for percussion but it doesn't pop up when you do the quick drag and drop. But drum replacer seems to work it just then at this point I'm stuck with it's built in sounds. So time to RTFM.
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PRAKASHXAVIER
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 20:45:55
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Thanks Sander and Jhonny :) I'll try and get drum replacer. Lol..I had to look up RTFM!!
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/18 21:12:34
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PRAKASHXAVIER Thanks Sander and Jhonny :) I'll try and get drum replacer. Lol..I had to look up RTFM!!
Drum Replacer is only included in Sonar Platinum. Rocky
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Re: Unable to Convert Wav Audio to MIDI
2017/01/19 01:29:59
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But the current way should still work fine, don't worry.
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