Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth

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Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth

The VST scanner is either severely lacking or Izotope has screwed up. Considering that the last StutterEdit update was in 2014, I'm convinced it's the former rather than the latter.
 
I have tried the suggestions mentioned in the thread here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/How-to-FIX-Problems-with-Izotope-Stutter-Edit-m2618351.aspx
 
Sonar finds the dll and vst files for the program, but outputs a "Main Call" error. It still allows me to Enable the plugin. However, once I force the Plugin Manager to configure the files as Synth, only the 32bit version is selectable during Insert Soft Synth or when inserting an Instrument. It seems the regular plugin is still available as FX.
 
Things I have done in the last 3 days to try to fix this:
-manually changed the registry data value name for the files for StutterEdit "isSynth" to a 1
-made sure after each re-install my registry for StutterEdit was clear, and made sure no StutterEdit files existed on the drive
-made sure that after I changed the registry, that I didn't have Sonar scan VSTs again and change the "IsSynth" entry
-made sure that the VST scanner knew exactly where to look for the StutterEdit files
 
 
Like I've said, I've tried almost everything in the previously mentioned thread. I've had to completely rebuild my plugin paths before just because of a new addition or a reset. I'm tired of it. And the lack of customer service doesn't help either.
 
::::As a side note, I tried to upload an image from the Attach Images button, it dropped down to "Select Option from Below" and it was blank. Wtf, guys? 
 
 
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    scook
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:02:27 (permalink)
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    If you are running X3 or newer, there is no need to configure Stutter Edit or any FX plug-in as a synth. Instead, after adding the plug-in to the FX Rack, use the VST drop down in the standard header to "Enable MIDI Input." This will cause the plug-in to be available in the Output drop down of a MIDI track.
     
    Direct upload of images is not allowed on this forum. Images must be uploaded to a server such as imgur.com and the link added to posts here.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:14:04 (permalink)
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    Thanks, scook. I will relay this to Izotope once I get it working, because their manual isn't updated to reflect the changes in Sonar Platinum.
     
    If that is indeed the case with my uploaded image, the website needs to update the "Attach Images" button to not even insinuate that you can upload an image. I don't know what the deal is with Cakewalk lately, but they seem like they are short on staff to make basic necessary changes. Nothing is more frustrating than having a problem and then being prevented from expressing that problem in a thorough way so it can be solved.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:17:30 (permalink)
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    The forum software is a third party product. While uploading images is a feature provided by the forum software, Cakewalk has the feature turned off. It has been setup this way since they started using this software.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:21:03 (permalink)
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    That really doesn't matter to the end consumer, scook. I'm not trying to be rude, but the forum interface needs to be changed to reflect that. For instance, it says you can upload an avatar, but my upload never appeared. It is presumably because you can't upload anything on the forum.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:29:35 (permalink)
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    It is no issue to me. I was just trying to help you understand how the forum works. Avatars are a different matter. To my knowledge, images may be uploaded for avatars. Plenty here than have managed to add an image to their account page for that purpose. Personally I have not bothered with that feature.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:40:07 (permalink)
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    It's not an issue to you because you are a moderator, scook. Don't deflect the issue.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:48:03 (permalink)
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    I am not sure what being a host has to do with it. The forum software works the same for me as to does for you. It has worked the same for years. What is curious is why this so upsetting to you.
     
     
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 18:51:39 (permalink)
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    It's upsetting because it's an inconvenience. If you can't see that, then I don't know how to convey that to you. I don't want to have one more step to go before I have to get a problem solved. That's what a 3rd party image hosting site is. It's one more step to solving my problem.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 19:01:56 (permalink)
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    I will link you an image of the problem with this forum within the next day. Right now, I have to step away from this conversation for dinner.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 19:09:08 (permalink)
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    I understand what you have written but it seems to me you are looking for a reason to complain. Fortunately you have not had to deal with the issue very often.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 20:46:51 (permalink)
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    scook, do you work for the third party that is charge of this forum?
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 20:49:08 (permalink)
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    Or do you work for Cakewalk?
     
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 21:05:01 (permalink)
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    No and no.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 21:13:24 (permalink)
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    If you don't, then I apologize. But this third party software needs to be fixed.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 22:06:52 (permalink)
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    I've never had a problem with Stutter Edit.
    It's a bit complex to set up, but I have used it with MIDI note control as an effect without any problems.
    I don't think I had to do anything special, except maybe set up MIDI input in the synth rack.
     


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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 23:06:37 (permalink)
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    scook, why did you delete your "goodbye" post. That gives even less credibility to your alliances here.  You're really making me start to doubt this company. Go ahead and delete the post where you accuse me of complaining about something in the forum. I know that's what you want to do.
     
    To arachnaut, thanks. I will try it when I'm not as pissed off at a forum host.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 23:19:32 (permalink)
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    I will put back

    Good Luck and Good Bye

    to message #11 if it makes you feel better. I removed it almost immediately after posting. I do wish you well with your endeavors but cannot understand the chip you are carrying around. Complain away if it makes you feel better and by all means blame me for your poor attitude.
     
     
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 23:24:17 (permalink)
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    I don't appreciate things being concealed on a forum. That's why I called you out. I do appreciate your help, despite the drama that ensued.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/02 23:28:46 (permalink)
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    The reasonable response from you would have been contact info for whom I need to contact to improve this website. So, who can I contact?
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 04:51:25 (permalink)
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    Contact customer support. In the sticky posts at the beginning of the forum there's a thread with contact details.


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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 08:20:16 (permalink)
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    Back on topic ... Stutter Edit is not a Synth, and cannot be inserted as one.  It is an audio effect only, to be controlled by a MIDI input track.
     
    So basically, you set it up like a vocoder.  RTFM.

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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 08:29:12 (permalink)
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    abacab RTFM.



    he did, it's out of date, see post #3 http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3555428

    just a sec

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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 08:38:37 (permalink)
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    pwalpwal
    abacab RTFM.



    he did, it's out of date, see post #3 http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3555428




    You got that part right.  The manual was using an old version of Sonar in the screen grabs.  But you missed the glaring, obvious mistake.  The manual also says to insert Stutter Edit as an FX.  The OP said:
     
    FettsVett
     
    However, once I force the Plugin Manager to configure the files as Synth, only the 32bit version is selectable during Insert Soft Synth or when inserting an Instrument. It seems the regular plugin is still available as FX.
     

     
    So this is basically a user error, incorrect 3rd party docs, being reported as a Sonar problem report.  Really?

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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 09:36:44 (permalink)
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    looks like, yeah

    just a sec

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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/02/09 10:02:40 (permalink)
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    I'll admit that the first time I setup a vocoder in Sonar, was confusing as hell.  But I eventually found some instructions that made sense. 
     
    I understand that the OP was frustrated, but it would have been more productive to ask a how to question on the forum, than to berate Sonar and the forum host.  Sonar is not perfect, but in this case, not Sonar's fault.
     
    I hooked up Stutter Edit with Sonar easily.

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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/04/03 21:58:20 (permalink)
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    I am able to insert it as an effect, but my original question still isn't answered why I'm only getting the 32 bit version. Also, the Izotope manual is NOT up to date (at least it wasn't when I last downloaded it). I have told Sonar where the 64bit dll is, and it's not finding it.
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    Re: Sonar will not recognize Stutter Edit as a Synth 2017/04/03 22:26:08 (permalink)
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    I got it set up after re-installing the exact same way I did when I originally made the post. However, the Main Call Error persists, but it still works as a VST3 effect. The 64 bit version finally appeared like it was supposed to.
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