Corporate Rock Stars

Quote: "As far as I'm concerned, it all died down with grunge in the 90's. Rock ceased to be relevant. That's when musicians seem to have become all p.c. and un-glamorous. That's when you couldn't tell the guy playing guitar in the biggest grunge band from the guy working the pump at the gas station."
 
Yep, I agree one thousand percent, Krist, it all went downhill after about 1992!  I remember being on break at a biker bar and watching Nirvana's first appearance on Saturday Night Live on one of the bar TVs and thinking the tide was changing.
Bob
 

it's more funny people think there ever was... in some/most cases it's a onstage persona. 
 
follow the logic, how do you know of them ? from mass selling of records  /airplay etc.. and what enabled that ? it wasn't from flogging 10 cd's or records at their gigs. Their management etc. "smoothed" any waters of them being a bit rebellious.
 
difference being some didn't get ripped off by the industry, and most now learn.. license everything so you control the copyright etc. thats why muso's etc aren't getting so ripped off now.
 
as for coldplay , I find it funny folk dislike em etc.  Had to do something for their production company, via work for them in 2000. Very nice people to deal with.
 
or would folk rather deal with folk who believe their own hype and are a total nightmare, and everything taking 3-4 times longer than it should ? 
 

I'm not going to blame grunge.  Or coldplay.
 
I'll blame emo.  Grunge may have had the older generations asking "Why are you so pissed off?".  Emo had the older generations asking, "Why are you so pissy?"
 
And singing shows.  Alanis Morrissette and Cher are likewise guilty. 
 
Pink has a role too.  Anyone who sings the lyric "So what, I'm a Rock Star" sets the bar a little low for everyone else.  Cause if you are such a rock star, we'd know it without you having to sing about it.
 
Easy digital replication is also to blame.  Real rock stars take time and investment.  The changing market had the labels desperately focusing on the quick fix of disposable pop.

sharke
... & garlic smoothies  

That's not a real thing.  Is it?

Good posts here!  I wasn't sure people would "get" what I was saying.  I was kind of being tongue-in-cheek, but yet with an element of truth in there.  I think someone else mentioned it too, that the same thing has happened with comedians.  

Well I'm going to blame the rise of narcissism.  Whatever reason for its ascension, advocate theater psychology can't be ignored.  I've done it, shamefully enough, while fully aware I was doing it. 
 
The overwhelming desire and need to snatch opportunities to put your mainstream social media approved anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti whatever-ism on display, usually overacting with pretentious anger presentation and patronizing passion to the predictable cheers and accolades by the observers.  Used to just happen at parties, when someone wanted to be the social justice hero of the room.  In social media, this is on an exponential scale.  
 
You can't deny the intoxication of a room cheering their approval for your theatrical advocate performance, especially when that explodes into millions of social media benefits, access to people and institutions and even more adoration of already adored fans.  It feeds the ego exactly what it wants.  Whatever twitter says is the cool social message, pick it up and pretend like it's always been your message, and now you're pissed, and you're going to FIGHT for those who have been ignored!  Yeah!! 

Maybe social media helped this rise in narcissism, I don't know.  But when I watch judges on singing shows get more and more over the top with showering compliments for mediocrity, turning them into minutes long teary eyed speeches about their "evolution" on a freaking singing competition, as the crowd validates their approval of these faux love feasts, it just seems so obvious to me.  Even judging and commenting is yet another social performance for them.  

Gee, how can I wax on and on about this 16 year old girl singing a song about her butt and make it sound like she's sacrificed years and years in the cold, bloody trenches of saturated obscurity? 

Pearl Jam

jamesg1213

Rain
 
 

 

 
I see Slipknot have had a change of image.
 
 
Actually, who is that?

Justin and BeeBurrs?