Tempo changes

I have to say that the tempo view is one of my least favorite aspects of Sonar at this time.  I have even noticed strange things happen, visually not audibly, around areas where there are tempo changes.
 
However, as far as drawing steep lines you can select the line tool, rather then the smart tool, to draw straight lines and that is quicker than trying to draw them free hand or beat by beat.  For ritards or fermatas I sometimes will put in an additional measure with the desired number of beats to get the time I want without doing any tempo changes.

I often do sequences that require smooth tempo changes (Eg, a slow down as the end of a measure approaches) .  I just draw them freehand with snap turned off (Press n while in Tempo view)

If I need to copy and paste, I make sure tempo events are selected on both dialog boxes.

promidi
I often do sequences that require smooth tempo changes (Eg, a slow down as the end of a measure approaches) .  I just draw them freehand with snap turned off (Press n while in Tempo view)

If I need to copy and paste, I make sure tempo events are selected on both dialog boxes.

I generally recommend against that. Musically there is no use in having tempo changes in between notes, and having dozens of intermediate tempo changes can cause problems with tempo-synced plugins among other things. It's better to enable snap at the resolution of the smallest note duration in the section. Better yet, record a part that has the feel you want, and use tab to transients/notes and Set Measure/Beat At Now to have SONAR calculate the tempos to fit the music for you.

Tempo map is awesome and can be used to realize even the most complex task. I insert and delete measures all the time with very complex tempo maps. I'll describe how to from X1 so it might vary. To insert measures and have the tempo slide over, you must place the now bar where you want to insert time, go to Project, Insert time/measures. Where it says Slide, make sure you tick all boxes (events in tracks, markers, meters,key, tempo changes), click the amount of measures or time, hit ok. You will see the tempo map slide over to make room. 😄 To delete, just highlight the measures or time on the timeline, Edit, Delete, then again Tick all these boxes (events, track bus automation, tempo changes, meter/key changes, Markers, and Delete Hole, shift by measure if it's a whole measure) Then your tempos during that section will be gone too. To keep your tempo curves the same but speed up or slow down every tempo change, use, Process, Fit to Time, Modify By changing tempo map, For faster overall, set the New Thru to an earlier time, for a slower overall, set the New Thru to a later time. For very fine ritards and such, just turn snap off F12, and sometimes you may need to zoom in or out on the tempo map to reach slower or faster speeds. I use the tempo list, say if I've Tempo Mapped a cover song and then want to straighten out their tempo by highlighting all but the first tempo then changing that one to my desired tempo. Sometime I map out 3 tempo maps of three version of a cover and then match pitches and tempos, either a new fresh tempo, or the map from my favorite one. Sometimes I map a tempo map to a cover song and then adjust the whole thing up or down using Fit to time. If I can help, let me know! 😄

Hey Cakewalk, while you're overhauling the temp view, can we have a temp averager tool?
 
I record my song free style with a guitar then use melodyne and sonar's tempo detection trick / feature to make a tempo map of what I played. It annoys me when - oops I slowed down pretty much right there and have to hand correct it. A tempo averager with a window like velocity scale would be welcome here where I could say no faster than x and no slower than y - now go adjust the map for me. Call it a suck reducer if ya want, I don't care. :-)
 
 

jkoseattle
Long ago I tried that 'conductor' function to set tempos, but it was difficult to use and too limiting, it never stuck for me.
 

What and where is the 'conductor' function?

Blogospherianman
10 years ago I used Bome's midi translator and glove pie to make a script to allow for conducting Sonar (or any DAW)with a wii-mote. Lots of fun!! One of my many 'projects'. My daughter loved conducting music with it. 😄

K.
Thanks.
 
 

SMcNamara

bitman
Hey Cakewalk, while you're overhauling the temp view, can we have a temp averager tool?
I record my song free style with a guitar then use melodyne and sonar's tempo detection trick / feature to make a tempo map of what I played. 

At NAMM I saw the Melodyne guy open a window in the software that would allow you to average the tempo over either the entirety of the song or a portion.  Not at my studio so I can't direct you but it's worth some investigation.
 
Good luck,
 
EDIT:  See if this helps -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVeZDnYKy2U 

This is exactly what I do with tempo mapping in Sonar, only I use the drawing tool and fit to time to manually average the rough spots. It's really not hard to accomplish in Sonar.