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Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
on my lenovo laptop, with internal sound card, and with external creative usb x fi sound card 5.1, i am able to open 24 bit session, import, etc....Sonar for some reason, is locked to 16 bit? is this correct?
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 16:44:45
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In preferences check out record bit depth, render bit depth and import bit depth under File / Audio Data. Also check the Audio driver Bit Depth under Audio / Device Settings.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 17:03:06
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Cakewalk does not write interface drivers. You can manually run the Wave Profiler on the Prefences > Audio > Driver Settings screen and see what SONAR detects when testing the drivers.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 17:57:55
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OK, let me explain!
I recorder tracks 16 bit, 48k in my main PC...transfer that to flash drive, an into my laptop- lenovo 4 core...not to record, but to do minor adjustmens...
as a test I install trials , studio one, and samplitude, and import a single file to see sound and reaction...!!!
both, sonar and studio one, for some reason, lock bit to 16, on both internal realtech HD, and creative x fi usb...i know that a x fi, is a 24 bit card......i wdm drivers, and asio4all....with wdm works.....
samplitube, converted to 24 bit, and it works with both cards...
i do not need infohow to change in preferences. my Q is, how come, samlpitude can playBACK, AND WORKS 24 bit, sonar do not, and s well studio one? with studio one, you can not even changeone parameter?
so, how the sampitude can do this? the differenece in sound is like day and night.....
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 18:23:08
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not locked here. im using 24 bit / 48 on all projects and dropping them on my laptop for mobile unit.
Try looking at your soundcards preferences. something maybe be locking it to 16 bit / a default in most soundcard.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 18:46:22
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Check your ASIO4ALL settings to see if it is forcing to 16 bit mode.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 19:02:25
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just googled, it looks, I m not the only one with this problem..it could be a win 10 glitch, a software that is holding to a driver, , perhaps, samplitube has lock into the 24 bit, and not let it go......or perhaps a video player....strange! is there a wdm driver reset utility?
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/15 20:47:10
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Try the WASAPI exclusive driver. It blows away ASIO4all now that Sonar has made it work with W10.
It even works great for me on W7 64 bit. All my stuff is 24bit.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 02:53:44
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wasapi wave profiler shows only 16 bit ...or win 10 is blocking, or I do not know what? it is strange, that samplitube works, in all modes inclidong 24 bit,, wdm, asio..but sonar, and studio one is locked to 16.
we are talking a process of elimination..if win10 how is blocking, how smplitudeis working...btw, i do not know other daw exept sonar, this was only for test....same drums file, in three daw, and one stereo track..simple..
the diference in sound is that is comeing out is drastic...somtething is interfering, somehow?
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 09:35:15
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Sorry - but I don't believe that a 16 bit wave file imported to Samplitude at 24 bits sounds better at all. It's louder, or you have a different pan setting, or maybe a plug is affecting something. What you describe is not possible, IMO. What do you think Samplitude is adding to convert 16 bits to 24 besides 0's?
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 09:50:48
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I am not sure anything is to be gained by converting a 16bit source track to 24bit. Of course SONAR will import files based on it preference settings including importing 16bit audio as 24bit. Internally the SONAR will process both 16 and 24bit clips the same.
WRT changing the Audio Driver Bit Depth setting, it could be one driver is affecting the other. SONAR will only operate at a bit depth common to both drivers. What happens if only one of the interfaces is enabled when the Wave Profiler is run? Given that both SONAR and Studio One operate the same, is there a possibility that Samplitude is misreporting the setting?
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 09:57:57
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Brando
Sorry - but I don't believe that a 16 bit wave file imported to Samplitude at 24 bits sounds better at all. It's louder, or you have a different pan setting, or maybe a plug is affecting something. What you describe is not possible, IMO. What do you think Samplitude is adding to convert 16 bits to 24 besides 0's?
my thought also, i did check volume, settings etc.....looks w/o anything.....the highs a much clearer, snare tighter....its a puzzle
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 10:07:59
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scook
I am not sure anything is to be gained by converting a 16bit source track to 24bit. Of course SONAR will import files based on it preference settings including importing 16bit audio as 24bit. Internally the SONAR will process both 16 and 24bit clips the same.
WRT changing the Audio Driver Bit Depth setting, it could be one driver is affecting the other. SONAR will only operate and a bit depth common to both drivers. What happens if only one of the interfaces is enabled when the Wave Profiler is run? Given that both SONAR and Studio One operate the same, is there a possibility that Samplitude is misreporting the setting?
I do not know, first I thought was, that internal realtek is keeping exclusive right over 24 bit, but the same happens with creative usb x fi eternal, which is 24 bit. I will, try now my v 100 studio to see what happens. But, again with analogy it must be that something, perhaps Samplitude is or keeping possession of 24 bit, or for same reason, win 10 has a glitch, or lenovo is somehow mandating 16 bit, for reasons know to them. I will check with my other laptop
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/16 10:41:00
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the other laptop is working , with x1. wave profilles scans and sees 24 bit. in wasapi and wdm.
so again we are at, or samplitide or win 10, or lenovo.
plese not, i always changed drivers for testing. when in samplitude i would use wdm, and in soanr asio, vice versa, jus to make sure one is not holding driver
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/17 15:43:57
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i made a mistake here, assuming that sonar could lock into asio, wdm, wasapi, mme.. and conflict with another program, if they use the same driver, like flash, etc.. My mistake, was, that a program, but a sound card conflict was an issue, ....so to be precise, when changing a sound card, disable everything, especially, if you have internal card, in playback, recording, microphone, what you hear, all that is in segments for the removed card....then go to advanced, and set to 24 bit..
i hate to say this to myself, but feel pretty stupid right now
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/17 15:51:49
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let me give you example..if you have a microphone in recording and its set to 16 bit, and your line out is 24 bit, you could have sonar with wave profiler telling you you have to change to 16...that happened to me
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/17 15:58:33
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Correct, because there is only one audio driver setting for bit depth in SONAR Preferences used for both input and output.
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Re: Sonar wdm driver 16bit only
2017/02/17 21:20:42
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Perhaps alter thread title as may be misleading.
Just a thought..
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