Melodyne / V-Vocal

To get V-Vocal working again you don't have to install an earlier version of Sonar completely.
Depending how far back your versions go . . . for example, I've been able to re-install just V-Vocal from my Sonar 8.5 disks, during the install routine select only V-Vocal to install.
 
To use Melodyne in your Sonar Platinum you have to create a Melodyne "Region FX" from an audio clip.

noynekker
To get V-Vocal working again you don't have to install an earlier version of Sonar completely.
Depending how far back your versions go . . . for example, I've been able to re-install just V-Vocal from my Sonar 8.5 disks, during the install routine select only V-Vocal to install.
 
To use Melodyne in your Sonar Platinum you have to create a Melodyne "Region FX" from an audio clip.

Not quite correct there. V-Vocal is an intrinsic part of the Sonar installer and not available to install as an individual plugin.
You need too install the whole Sonar program (X2 or earlier) however in the verbose/advanced installer you can deselect every other component ensuring the installation is only a few hundred MB.

Many thanks for all the info.

I had to actually install an earlier version of Sonar to get at V-Vocal. I love how V-Vocal lets you switch over to the amplitude tab and manually tweek the gain envelope as you tune the vocal. It's one stop shopping and has a much nicer looking interface than melodyne. Plus it's not a thing where once you get it up and running, you realize you have a light version that only does one or two things ... but I digress.
 
I installed sonar X1 I think it was ... then after that, when you designate a section of an audio track as "Region FX", you should then see V-Vocal in the menu in Sonar X3 or whatever version is your go to.

Not the version I had. I would've had to fork over darn near $200 for an upgrade ... I think.
 
But it doesn't really matter. I'm a designer myself and can't look at the interface. It literally causes my food to want out.
 
I'm also bitter about the whole narrative where I was very content to use V-Vocal and then it was just removed from all versions going forward because they swung a new and better deal with Melodyne. Yeah, that still stings a bit ...
 

scottcmusic
 
 
I'm also bitter about the whole narrative where I was very content to use V-Vocal and then it was just removed from all versions going forward because they swung a new and better deal with Melodyne. Yeah, that still stings a bit ...
 

 
There has never been anything to prevent you from continuing to use your VV if you wanted. In fact the ARA integration made it easier /more stable if anything. 
 
I also don't think that CW had any choice in the matter of having to find an alternative.

I think all of those synths are still available if you have your old Sonar installations.

Regardless, sometimes things are changed (like going to 64 bit) and it's not worth (or possible) updating the code of such an old piece of kit. It's still up to you whether you want to upgrade or not. If you loved Dreamstation and V-Vocal and they improve your process, why not use Sonar 8.5? I'm not being sarcastic here, updates are a mixed blessing and sometimes it's more important that the software doesn't get in the way than that we have all the latest features we might not even use.

Sanderxpander
why not use Sonar 8.5?

I would if the community would still deal with me ... what happens is ... you just get left in the dust. Nobody will talk to or assist your luddite ass.
 
Think of it this way ... If I buy a Les Paul ... 10 years later there is not, like, only half a pickup and maybe part of the headstock left ... it's still just as I bought it. You pay. You take ownership ... you use. You continue to use ... or, maybe you sell. Get some money back out of it ...
 
That's what I miss ... now everything is disposable. The whole system I am using right now will be pushing up daisies in about a year and a half. At that point I will sort through all these compatibility issues anew ... should be fun. I look forward to it.
 
Seems like somebody's job should be porting these older tools that are beloved over to versions that remain compatible with the Sonar upgrades that keep the ball rolling for them financially. They need continued revenue from their customers, we need creative tools to make music. Maybe we meet in the middle? If I love Dreamstation as a tool but, for financial reasons, Cakewalk has to move on to other partner agreements, than what gives with the music making process again? Where does that fit in? When do I make the music again?
 
If I sound bitter ... it's not that way ... I will concede frustrated. I was smack dab in inspiration mode when all of this occurred. Now I haven't touched my stuff to actually make music in over a month. Exactly THE OPPOSITE of what is supposed to happen.

I think that's a fair point. I wish I could do that. What happened was I got all amped up for some old school flanging on my background vocals. So I found the Fix Flanger and Vocal Doubler from SoftTube ... I was stoked. It looked awesome and like exactly what the song needed. I also wanted Echo Boy ... I had been given these two gift cards at work for Christmas and had about $150 to blow ...that's where I went wrong ... I started turning a lustful eye towards a few things that I thought would make the music a tad more authentic. That was a bridge too far. Lol.
 
My mom always used to say, "Keep your eyes on your own plate." ... I get that now.
 
But, long story short, I have like three threads going right now around the forum where it's just me ****ing about iLok and also how I can't make this new $100 Native Instruments Delay show up in my plugins list ... see how that works? It's a rabbit hole ...

I once saw it on one Russian forum - the guys make a 1mb "V-Vocal only" installer. I do not know how much it's legal, but it is a fact.