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2017/03/06 04:38:07 (permalink)

Audio File Maintenance Questions

So I routinely import 16 tracks of a 45 min set of material done live by a client.  After importing if I look at the Audio folder for the project it is about 5g in size.
I then rough mix the 25 or so tunes using the channels gain controls.  After doing so every channel that I have edited has a set of new (smaller) audio files.  I then write the tracks to a wav file and move on to the next tune.
the point being that after editing 25 or so tunes the audio folder has grown to about 3 time the size of the original  i.e. 5g to 20 or 25g.
 
Is there any way to do this so as to make efficient use of my hard drive.
Anyway to clean up the un-used files etc.
 
Or is there a better way of doing this.
 
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Re: Audio File Maintenance Questions 2017/03/07 14:57:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby meh 2017/03/08 05:23:01
Utilities > Consolidate Project Audio:

Important Overview:
The reason to "Consolidate Project Audio" is to clean up your "takes"
getting rid of any tracks that aren't really going to be used in the project.

Consolidation cleans your audio folder by copying only the audio used in the project
to a new folder typically called "songname_xx backup"
(xx beling anything from 1a through 9z) and creates that folder inside
of your ../songname/audio folder.

All original audio files will still be available inside of ../songname/audio
and only the audio used in that particular version of the song will be copied to
../songname/audio/songname_xx backup .
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An example of audio not used in a project would be:
Imagine you record a lead vocal, save the .cwp and then re-record the same vocal
on an other track or even the same track, replacing the original take.
So ... in your "audio" folder both takes will still be there, even if only
one track and one take is used in the project.
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When you "Consolidate..." Sonar will know what audio is in the .cwp
and what is not, and will only backup the audio that is used in that
particular version of the song. ( remember ... version is songname_xx )

"If" you're cutting tracks and you're cutting 1 track at a time and
not deleting takes, removig clips, and generally keeping the first take
of every track, then there's no need to consolidate.

If you're wanting to keep old versions of the song for reference, then
you should consolidate *that particular version* and then move the
consolidated audio folder called "songname_xx backup" to ../songname/_archive,
which will be a new folder you make inside of your songname folder.

You should also move that particular .cwp of the song into _archive .

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How to Consolidate:
1) Save your .cwp as a newer version. ( songname_xx )

2) Choose: Tools > Consolidate Project Audio ...
... answer OK to questions.
CTRL+S to save again and close Sonar.

3) Open ../songname/audio and copy all audio files to a folder you now make
called _trash
Open the folder called "songname_xx backup" and CRTL+A (to select all)
CTRL+X (to cut) move up one level back into songname/audio and CTRL+V (to paste).
Minimise the folder.

4) Open Sonar ... GO > ALT+F > 1, to open the last .cwp
to double check that there are no lost files.

If Sonar doesn't complain then:
Minimise or close Sonar,
Maximise the folder, highlight both "_trash" and "songname_xx backup"
and SHFT+DEL to permanently delete both.



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Re: Audio File Maintenance Questions 2017/03/07 18:20:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby meh 2017/03/08 05:22:59
Another approach is to use Save As to save the project to a temporary folder. Be sure to check Copy All Audio With Project. The saved file and and audio folder will contain only what is being used in the CWP file. Then you can delete the original CWP file and audio folder and move the version from the temporary folder to the original folder.
 
It's easier than it sounds, and it can free up huge amounts of disk space.
 
This is effectively the same as Consolidate, but it doesn't depend on any internal SONAR commands. After some disasters with Clean Audio, I feel more comfortable taking control of the process.

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Re: Audio File Maintenance Questions 2017/03/08 05:26:06 (permalink)
Steve_Karl
Utilities > Consolidate Project Audio:

Important Overview:
The reason to "Consolidate Project Audio" is to clean up your "takes"





I am not doing multi takes...I am just adjusting the gain on some of the tracks before printing them to wav.
 
But that's a great tip when multi taking.
 
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Re: Audio File Maintenance Questions 2017/03/08 11:19:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby meh 2017/03/08 14:04:14
the only way to do this is to take every track and use the "Bounce to clips" function.
Then go to Utilities/Clean Audio Folder.
 
It takes some time but it will remove all the stray files you don't need anymore.
I do this once every 2 weeks or so to keep my folders nice and clean.
So rather than storing 70 little audio files, I only store 20 big ones.
 
Your only other option (if you don't want to bounce the clips) is to go to each clip and "Apply trimming".
What this does is bounce the clip to its normal size. even though a clip has been split, exc. It still contains audio data beyond the splits. this is slip editing purposes.

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