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2017/03/15 18:52:32 (permalink)

interface of choice?

Hello all.
I'm using cakewalk platinum.
I'm looking at purchasing either Motu's 828mk3 hybrid, 896mk3 hybrid or Presonus 192 studio. Any thoughts on these? Really want to know if anyone uses the Presonus, with cakewalk platinum. I
It has USB 3.0

Any other ideas?

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/15 18:57:10 (permalink)
Motu is above the Presonus as far as good drivers go. They are on my top two picks. Motu and RME. 
USB 3 doesn't really make a difference with audio streaming. 
It does matter if you own a Laptop that doesn't have one or the other.  
 
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/15 19:08:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/03/15 23:30:31
Hi. I would recommend RME with all my heart. I have the Ucx, use it over USB (2), and I am very pleased with it. It is a set and forget kind of Interface. It just works  Low latency as well.
RME is well known for very good drivers, and support products that are long gone. Their driver update interval is also good.
All the best.
 

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/15 19:15:54 (permalink)
I have a Presonus and have 2 issues:
 
1. Drivers. Old ones had some problem, I forget the details,
and with the new ones ASIO and Sonar didn't live together happily so I was forced down to WDM.
(but the Presonus ASIO drivers were fine with other DAWs and audio software...)
There were 2 or maybe 3 updates and that was it.
 
2. The Input/VSL(Computer) Mix knob. The "panning law" (if you can call it that) is designed so that it is louder in the middle, meaning constant compensation adjustments are needed on the main volume knob.
 
I don't use it.
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/15 20:30:13 (permalink)
 I purchased the 192 based on the usb 3 connection thinking it would improve RTL and other additional features the unit offered. After about 8 months of owning it I finally had some time to really dig in and made some discoveries. If you do live recordings or straight audio projects this is a great unit. It sounds great and has a rich tone. However if you use virtual instruments in my experience this is not the interface to purchase. This sucks for me as I use virtual instruments a lot. With the use of any virtual instruments my rtl went from 9ms (audio only project) all the way up to 30ms. This was due to if I didn't up the buffer I would hear a ton of pops and crackles. I am in the process of doing a return in hopes it was a defective unit but not sold on it. I also have a focusrite 6i6 that I have had no issues with and can run a solid 8 to 9ms RTL. I would like to note it does seem to be on a case by case basis so this was just my experience.
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 08:19:17 (permalink)
My apologies for possibly putting this in the wrong forum. The reason I put it here was the fact that Presonus comes with its own DAW, Studio One. So I was also curious how other Platinum users dealt with the Presonus and Platinum.

Oh, and I am using a laptop by the way. Sony Vaio i7 quad core/8 thread, 7200 rpm, 8gb ram,
AND USB 3.0 as well as firewire. That's why I was thinking on the Presonus since it carries the USB 3.0

Thank you for your opinions, anyway.
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 12:24:53 (permalink)
Im using the M-Audio M-Track 2x2 usb interface and is awesome! The build quality is second to none being all metal and it has all the features in looking for in a cheap interface like
24-bit/192kHz Resolution for Professional Recording and Monitoring
Professional studio-quality recording in a portable desktop form factor
Featuring All-New Crystal™ Preamps and Pristine D/A converters
Capture every nuance and subtlety of your performance
Elegant Pro-Grade Metal Chassis
Large central control for easy volume adjustment
Future-Proofed High-Speed, Zero Latency Recording
Includes standard USB and USB-C connection cables
Dedicated XLR+1/4” Combo Input for Mic/Line Sources
+48V phantom power switch to accommodate all microphone types
Dedicated 1/4” Instrument Input for Guitar or Bass
Tailor-made gain and impedance stage for a pristine, accurate DI signal
Stereo 1/4” Main Outputs; 1/4” Headphone Output with independent level controls.......
 
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 13:05:26 (permalink)
I would avoid Presonus

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 14:26:32 (permalink)
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My apologies for possibly putting this in the wrong forum. The reason I put it here was the fact that Presonus comes with its own DAW, Studio One. So I was also curious how other Platinum users dealt with the Presonus and Platinum.

Oh, and I am using a laptop by the way. Sony Vaio i7 quad core/8 thread, 7200 rpm, 8gb ram,
AND USB 3.0 as well as firewire. That's why I was thinking on the Presonus since it carries the USB 3.0

Thank you for your opinions, anyway.

USB 2 will not be the bottleneck in an Audio Interface with a "normal" amount of inputs.
Not noticeable latency (RTL) difference either, in my opinion. (sub 10 ms is good enough for me)

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 14:53:35 (permalink)
I'd recommend anything RME.  I have a UFX and the drivers have always been solid.

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 14:53:35 (permalink)
I'd recommend anything RME.  I have a UFX and the drivers have always been solid.

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 15:01:56 (permalink)
I haven't had any problems with Presonus. I'm using their Fire studio Tube. The darned thing won't break so I can get something else. :) I probably won't replace it until it dies.

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 16:12:02 (permalink)
Another vote for RME. I have an UCX and use it on a USB 3 port. It's using the USB 2 standard but is fully compatible with USB 3. It also has firewire. My lowest RTL is around 3ms, but usually there is no reason to go that low as the TotalMix software has the most flexible direct monitoring options on the market.

They're pricey though, I got mine second hand.
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/16 16:20:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/03/17 17:04:42
Yet another recommendation for RME. I use the RME UFX. I know RME was not in your original post, but simply put, the RME products are the top of class when it comes to audio interfaces. It is the measuring rod by which all others are judged. An argument could be made about Lynx or Apogee, but even they are measured by the standards of RME. 

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 04:01:14 (permalink)
For what its worth, I have read about some issues with the Presonus 192 and using usb3.
 
I too will soon be in the market for a new interface, and I have been looking at RME and MOTU...  I will probably go with the RME as I read some reviews regarding the MOTU drivers and Win 10.  The MOTU seems to be fairly reliable with the OSX.   I take the reviews with a large grain of salt though, as there will always be unhappy customers, and they seem to post more than others.  Will be interested to see what you end up with!
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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 04:51:20 (permalink)
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I too will soon be in the market for a new interface, and I have been looking at RME and MOTU...  I will probably go with the RME as I read some reviews regarding the MOTU drivers and Win 10. 




The latest MOTU generation interfaces (AVB) and win10 have a relative short history as it looks like MOTU focussed first on Mac drivers and only afterwards ironed-out the windows drivers.  Being one of the people who had issues with MOTU in the last fall, I need to comment here that a lot has happened in the past few months and MOTU now provides excellent drivers (they were always rock solid, but had some device connection issues and crackling problems under certain conditions, which are now solved).  Support from MOTU was excellent BTW.
 
RME has a track record of superb performance, so IMHO it is down to personal preference which one to chose, but I would look no further in terms of brands (anyone remember the support from e.g. Roland? Of course not, it does not exist!). I'd go with either RME or MOTU, as both companies also provide a cost-effective interfaces (RME Babyface, MOTU Ultralite). I needed a lot of IO and while you can also chain several RMEs, MOTU AVB here seems to be the winner when it comes to scalability and networked solutions.

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 05:02:38 (permalink)
We're you referring to the MOTU 624? I was interested in that since my 192 is not suiting my needs.

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 10:24:13 (permalink)
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We're you referring to the MOTU 624? I was interested in that since my 192 is not suiting my needs.



Yes. Anything with from the AVB series as they all use the same driver. I'm actually using 2x 1248 which is the big brother of the 624 and an UltraLite when I travel. Very nice units, superb low noise floor, totally quiet ... just connect them with a standard LAN cable and units talk to each other across rooms ... routing options are intiimmidating at first, though, so plan on learning how to work all these options before sending the unit(s) back ;-)

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 12:35:09 (permalink)
Awesome thanks. I heard for the PC there were serious problems with the unit and was concerned if it was hardware or software related. I was hoping software which is what it is sounding like if its been resolved :)

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Re: interface of choice? 2017/03/17 15:01:41 (permalink)
+1 for RME.
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