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2017/03/22 04:49:35 (permalink)

synths only make sound when frozen

Hi,
 
I'm using Platinum Producer. I have several projects where soft synths don't make any sound unless they're frozen. I have to thaw and re-freeze after every edit, or to change the patch.
 
It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen most of the time. For example, I was working with D-PRo today, and all was well for a while. After an hour or two, the symptom appeared, and now it's thaw-freeze every time I want to audition a patch.
 
Has anyone here experienced this problem?
 
 
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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/22 08:06:35 (permalink)
This is not something I have ever experienced.  
 
Can you give more details about the specification of your machine, audio interface, version of Sonar and if it is just happening with DimPro or all virtual instruments? 

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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/22 08:40:36 (permalink)
An outside chance, but does moving the volume fader on the synths midi input track (not audio output) restore sound? If so your soft synths volume is being zeroed. Go to preferences>project>midi and untick "zero controllers when playback stops".

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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/22 11:18:54 (permalink)
Have you set Input Echo on the track?

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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/23 02:56:18 (permalink)
Thanks to everyone for the replies!
 
I'm posting my system info below @ karhide's request. I'm using Sonar Platinum 2017.01 with a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 USB interface.
 
The problem may be related to project complexity, and affects both D-Pro and Rapture. The project I'm working on (where the problem occurs) has 41 tracks. 21 Audio, 5 MIDI, the rest are instrument tracks for various soft synths. One of the synths is a drum module with 8 output channels.
 
I created a new project with 1 MIDI track, one instrument track, and 1 instance of D-Pro. That project behaves correctly.
 
Bruce, thanks for the suggestion, I'll try that in a minute and let you know.
 
Mike, I'm driving the synth from recorded midi data, I don't think input echo matters. Am I right?
 
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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/23 03:04:35 (permalink)
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An outside chance, but does moving the volume fader on the synths midi input track (not audio output) restore sound? If so your soft synths volume is being zeroed. Go to preferences>project>midi and untick "zero controllers when playback stops".




I tried moving the volume fader during playback, it didn't have an effect. The 'zero controllers' checkbox also had no effect. 
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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/23 03:48:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby andy_grahammer 2017/03/23 11:35:20
Sounds like ye olde MIDI Prepare Using buffer is too low. Try increasing it to 500ms if it's at the default of 250. If you're using Linear Phase plugins or other plugins that induce a lot of Delay Compensation, you may need to go higher.

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Re: synths only make sound when frozen 2017/03/23 03:51:54 (permalink)
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Sounds like ye olde MIDI Prepare Using buffer is too low. Try increasing it to 500ms if it's at the default of 250. If you're using Linear Phase plugins or other plugins that induce a lot of Delay Compensation, you may need to go higher.




Thanks brundlefly, that fixed it!
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