PRV, mouse entry, and snap

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2017/04/13 06:15:24 (permalink)

PRV, mouse entry, and snap

After only two years, I finally realized why mouse entry of notes in the PRV remains an awkward, uncomfortable thing:   it's because Sonar, alone maybe among all computer applications in the universe, uses a unique kind of position-and-place logic:  'snap' is done on a first mouse click: with snap set, your positioning click, the first click, causes cursor jump while the second click of what may seem like but isn't a standard computer double-click is the note entry.    It's a subtle thing, but the source, perhaps, of one of the essential "I HATE SONAR" feelings.  
 
I've read numberless complaints, fewer now since most people have moved beyond version 8 and earlier, about the loss of single click note entry.    Maybe single note entry could be returned?  Or at least reverse the 'snap' logic to a normal computer thing: you enter the note with click one, and snap, if set, happens on click two or release of the mouse if using click-and-drag.
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    Notecrusher
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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/13 08:08:43 (permalink)
    It's... different.
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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/13 08:17:02 (permalink)
    The way I would like the default PRV note entry to be,  is the way is does when you hold the ALT key while using the DRAW tool.  

    That should be the default method when placing notes using the smart tool.  That would make placing notes i the PRV much quicker (for me anyway)....

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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/13 08:37:42 (permalink)
    I wish “single click note entry of version 8” back in next update.
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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/13 12:43:13 (permalink)
    I concur: MIDI note entry did feel more natural and fluid in 8.5 and earlier. But SONAR is far from alone in the way it's done today. Rather than blazing its own trail, SONAR is actually conforming to how it's done in most DAWs.


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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/13 14:30:07 (permalink)
    my 3 favorite shortcuts are:
     
    "N"- To turn on/off snap.
    "F5"- Smart tool
    "F9"- Draw tool
     
    these help considerably with drawing and snap. Im sure you know this. maybe I missed the point, if I did, my apology's. Anyway hope these helped.

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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/14 04:29:45 (permalink)
    I also agree. fwiw.
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    Re: PRV, mouse entry, and snap 2017/04/14 04:33:34 (permalink)
    Sure, I use those, Chuck, or my equivalents; but in the 'Draw' mode you can not change the length of a note (you can't click-and-drag) at entry, and at the end of each note is the extraordinary change of cursor, resulting in another very weird UI feeling; nevertheless, for a long string of notes all the same duration, yes it's faster in Draw mode. 
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