Melodyne gurus?

I've got this acoustic guitar flatpicking rhythm part that is difficult for me to do.  I was able to get it recorded pretty cleanly, however, the timing is a little off in spots.  You would think that Melodyne would be just the ticket.  After applying Melodyne the timing does get corrected, but now the track has very noticeable phasing...actually sounds like I used a phase pedal.  As soon as I undo the timing correction the track sounds "normal" again.  I'm guessing the corrected notes are out of phase with some of the uncorrected sustained notes (even though I select the entire track).
 
Any suggestions specific to Melodyne...I'm not a SONAR Audio Snap fan?  

If, say, open string notes are still ringing when another one sounds and you move certain ones, you probably would hear that as phasing. Which algorithm did you use? I haven't tried to use Melodyne for that yet, as I just play parts till I'm happy. I've had clients who insisted on playing on their tracks that could benefit (greatly! )from alignment, though I've mostly edited their parts vs Audio Snap or Melodyne. So, I look forward to other's advice and solutions.
Michael

pentimentosound
... Which algorithm did you use? ...

I used Auto.

amiller
I've got this acoustic guitar flatpicking rhythm part that is difficult for me to do.  I was able to get it recorded pretty cleanly, however, the timing is a little off in spots.  You would think that Melodyne would be just the ticket.  After applying Melodyne the timing does get corrected, but now the track has very noticeable phasing...actually sounds like I used a phase pedal.  As soon as I undo the timing correction the track sounds "normal" again.  I'm guessing the corrected notes are out of phase with some of the uncorrected sustained notes (even though I select the entire track).
 
Any suggestions specific to Melodyne...I'm not a SONAR Audio Snap fan?  

I use one of the Polyphonic algorithms for this type of audio but I always edit notes individually vs an entire track at once.
 
HTH

Well, there's an answer! Thanks Craig! We can all sit back, knowing we'll know all about Audio Snap soon! LOL Now if you'd only drop by late mornings at my house, I could learn all the other stuff! LOL
Michael

Well, that's a phrase I'll have to borrow from now on! LOL

Anderton
I really need to do a video so people can see how easy it is...

Would be very cool!!!

jpetersen
That odd phasing is a Melodyne artifact. You hear it on many heavy autotuned tracks.
 

Thanks, this may help explain some issues Ive had with phasing effect.
 
Also to add your to your response, selecting all and adjacent notes you want to move independently, using the note separation tool. 
 
Cheers
 
 

amiller
Any suggestions specific to Melodyne...I'm not a SONAR Audio Snap fan?  

While Im not a MD guru by any means, Ive had similar phasing issues, and found sometimes importing and working with the audio files in Melodyne "standalone" mode may have better results, then export/import files back into Sonar.
Working with MD polyphonic detection on multiple tracks can be quite daunting with all the notes revealed, and somewhat of a learning process, but may be worth taking the time in the long run, if its something you cant correct by recording processes.
Also, at this time cant say Im big fan of Audio Snap yet either, I only recently tried using it and was overwhelmed with crashing issues, (which may or may not be my own, or my system faults, so not necessarily knocking AS), While I looked at this as a learning experience for working with a badly timed live performance recording, I cant say I came out of it being able to profess any virtues of AS, since as of yet I haven't been able to identify or correct these issues, Ive since abandoned AS and gone back to trying to use Melodyne for this.
Otherwise hope Craig does do an AS video to reveal the error of my ways, LOL.
 
Cheers
John 
     

mettelus
You can try Melodyne in Melodic or even Percussive mode. Percussive may actually be better since it is most like AS functionality. You want to adjust timing only, and that mode looks at the track in "segments." Issue with Melodyne is that it dissects pitch material, so a single note movement can cause phasing.

What you are asking seems straight up timing, which is best in AS (and for a single track is not too complex).

I have not tried Melodic or Percussive mode yet.  I'm going to give that a try.  I have tried a bunch of different options in AS and it just isn't giving me what I want without artifacts (even after rendering).  So far, the track sounds best when left alone even with a couple of off timing issues.  If all else fails I'll have to bite the bullet and retrack till I get it right.

OK, I've got lots of timing corrections I can try over the next few days, but I think I just really have to address the root cause. 
 
I'm trying to do a fingerpicking part by flatpicking it.  The reason for this is because I have crappy thin short nails that don't grow very long before the tear/break and I despise old country style finger picks.  I'm also not crazy about getting fake nails because of the hassle of getting them and taking care of them for the VERY LITTLE bit of fingerpicking I actually do.  I don't do much fingerpicking at all so I don't have any built up calluses on my fingerpicking hand like Tommy Emmanuel does.  The volume and tone of just my finger tips is low and muted...not useable.
 
I know this is way off topic but I'm thinking about trying a set of these:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz-U1Zda1zI