MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
After giving up on AudioSnap because it keeps detecting way too many transients on my kick drum track (within a multitrack session) I thought I'd try time stretching by ctrl-shift dragging.
I added all the drum tracks to a selection group and tried to ctrl-shift drag the lot for a particular cut section. Wouldn't work. I had to stretch each track individually. The result was perfect but it was a right pain having to do this to 13 tracks!
Am I doing something wrong?
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
VariousArtist
Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1397
- Joined: 2003/11/07 15:03:09
- Location: London, UK & California, USA
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 13:14:59
(permalink)
No, you're not doing anything wrong but yes, I agree this would be very beneficial to be able to stretch multiple clips at once. Plus that behaviour is intuitive and Windows-like. I encounter this enough times that I have been wanting to add a feature request for a while now, so here it is: http://bakery.cakewalk.co...tretch-Multiple-Tracks
|
MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 13:34:58
(permalink)
" Plus that behaviour is intuitive and Windows-like."
Agreed.
Will check out your feature request and give it a vote :)
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
mettelus
Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5321
- Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
- Location: Maryland, USA
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 13:43:04
(permalink)
I am totally drawing a blank, but thought that this functionality did exist at one time (X3 maybe?) but vanished in the update cycle. Am I remembering that incorrectly?
ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
|
MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 14:01:01
(permalink)
I remember in X3 you didn't have to press ctrl-shift!
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
Anderton
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14070
- Joined: 2003/11/06 14:02:03
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 15:06:50
(permalink)
MagicMike
After giving up on AudioSnap because it keeps detecting way too many transients on my kick drum track (within a multitrack session) I thought I'd try time stretching by ctrl-shift dragging.
I added all the drum tracks to a selection group and tried to ctrl-shift drag the lot for a particular cut section. Wouldn't work. I had to stretch each track individually. The result was perfect but it was a right pain having to do this to 13 tracks!
Am I doing something wrong?
You may be doing something wrong with AudioSnap. If the kick drum is on its own track, it should be easy to generate transients at just the right places if Threshold, Resolution, and (perhaps) average tempo are set correctly.
|
PJH
Max Output Level: -79 dBFS
- Total Posts : 599
- Joined: 2007/01/23 15:25:59
- Location: South Africa
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 15:44:50
(permalink)
I've been requesting time stretching multiple tracks at once for about 6 years now.
|
highlandermak
Max Output Level: -86 dBFS
- Total Posts : 214
- Joined: 2016/03/22 11:33:04
- Location: Illinois
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 16:04:39
(permalink)
I had attempted on a project i had transfered from analog. The drummer's tempo was all over the place so I hoped to use this feature. It did not go well. I ended up scrapping it and started from scratch. I'm hoping to fix the tempo issues after the mixdown in melodyne.
Computer: CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8140A Gaming PC OS: Genuine Windows 10 64 bit (Most current updates) CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core | Intel Z370 Express Chipset Graphic: NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB USB: 6 x USB 3.1 | 2 x USB 2.0 | 1x RJ-45 Network Ethernet 10/100/1000 Storage: 240GB SSD+2TB HDD Application(DAW): Studio One 3 Pro and SONAR PLATINUM - Version (Most current update) Audio Interfaces: PreSonus Studio 192 and Focusrite: Scarlett 6i6 (Most current updates)
|
MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 16:45:09
(permalink)
"You may be doing something wrong with AudioSnap. If the kick drum is on its own track, it should be easy to generate transients at just the right places if Threshold, Resolution, and (perhaps) average tempo are set correctly. "
Perhaps I'm setting it up incorrectly. I followed a tutorial that said to set the threshold to zero for the kick,snare, hat etc all the single instrument tracks and then set threshold to 100% for all the overhead/room mics etc.
Am I getting too many transients because I'm setting the threshold to zero on the tom mics for example? It's picking up bleed?
I'll try just setting the kick drum to zero and set the rest of the tracks to have 100% threshold...
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/25 21:15:15
(permalink)
Success! I was doing something wrong. The key here is in your choice of transients. Using just the kick and snare transients (adjusting threshold to taste) and merging the markers with the rest of the tracks (100% threshold). Have been able to tweak timing issues really rather easily.
Thanks all :)
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
MagicMike
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 188
- Joined: 2013/11/25 11:21:34
- Location: Cardiff
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/26 16:04:31
(permalink)
PJH
I've been requesting time stretching multiple tracks at once for about 6 years now.
Found something: Find out how much you want to stretch by ctrl-shift drag. Make note of the amount, 105% for example, and then select all the tracks you want to stretch. Go to 'Process' - 'Length' and perform the stretch there. Works well!
Windows 10 x64, 16 gb RAM,i7 4.2GHz, 250GB Samsung SSD for OS/Programs, SSD for current projects, 1TB Disk for audio and backup project files, RME UCX interface on USB, ASUS motherboard, dual screen setup with latest AMD FX 5450 catalyst drivers for graphics, Cakewalk by Bandlab. Samson Graphite 49 keyboard.
|
soens
Max Output Level: -23.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5154
- Joined: 2005/09/16 03:19:55
- Location: Location: Location
- Status: offline
Re: Can I time stretch multiple tracks at once?
2017/04/26 21:24:11
(permalink)
Thanks for that. Another little piece of Sonar to learn. Interesting that it also includes a formant adjuster.
A more intuitive way is in order for multiple track stretching as this one is rather crude and will require a lot of experimenting. So far my attempts aren't yielding desired results - tracks aren't stretching at the same rate as they should be.
At this point if I want to stretch multiple tracks I'll do them individually or mix them down to a single track and stretch that one.
|