Dive Under The Sea

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2017/05/06 09:52:51 (permalink)

Dive Under The Sea

Following a question asked elsewhere I was experimenting with some software synths.  I had just for a change hit record and this sort of fell out of the furry paws and was captured in the process.  
 
This is pretty much what I got as I played it you could almost say it is a live recording.

Dive Under The Sea.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/06 18:36:46 (permalink)
    Wookie,
    Sounds like you had a lot of resonance tweaking fun with this one. I liked the swelling and fading background pads, almost like the sound of breathing. Nice.



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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/07 10:32:11 (permalink)
    Thank you Bjorn.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/07 11:58:45 (permalink)
    Very cool - what software synths were you using?
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/07 15:05:05 (permalink)
    Thank you Daryl and Phil.

    The Synths are from Korg's Digital Legacy Collection.  Primarily the Legacy Cell which is a combination synth that allows the use of the MS20 and the PolySix to be used in a combination patch.  Plus it also uses the MDX FX that come with the Legacy Collection synths.

    I was just noodling around with one of the patches and decided to hit record which resulted in the what is played part.  So what you hear is basically what I played in one take.

    But "there is more" to use a popular quote, I thought this needs a little something else just to add some more to it but I really liked the sound of the two patches used.  After a little fur preening I replicated the two patches of the PolySix and the MS20 used in the Legacy Cell as close as I could in the VSTi versions of these two synths.  The reason they are only as close as possible, the Legacy Cell gives some additional controls and functionality to the synths contained in the combination.  I then used bits from the initial take to drive the other synths.  I did have to do a little editing because there were a couple of furry notes but it is pretty much what I played.

    Therefore the Synths used are:-
    Korg's Legacy Cell Combination of the MS-20 and PolySix  
    Korg's MS-20 VSTi
    Korg's PolySix
    Plus a number of instances of Korg's MDX-FX in it's different guises of EQ, Delay, Compression etc.

    Recorded in SONAR Platinum 2017.04.  No third party plugs other than ReMatrix Solo as my global Buss reverb.
    Each Track used the PC Channel emulation, PC76U-Type Compressor (very lightly) and the Quad Curve EQ.
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    Global Reverb - PC Buss Console emulation, PC4K S-Type Compressor (just for glue), Quad Curve EQ, PC ReMatrix Solo and Tape Emulator.

    The Bounced Mix with then finalised through the Linear Phase Multi-Band compressor just to balance it.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/07 21:11:58 (permalink)
    Really cool and inspiring, John. When it comes to synths, I have kind of a 'set it and forget it' mentality. I need to spend some time doing exactly what you did here...hit record and noodle around. I wouldn't expect similar results but I might actually learn something. Thanks for posting!

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/08 09:04:14 (permalink)
    Thank you Gary, a little noodle never goes a miss.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/08 09:55:13 (permalink)
    Nice one Wookiee
     
    Yeah, that Korg stuff is well worth having in our collection
     
    Lovely pad sounds and definitely gives that feeling of exploring below the waves.
     
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/08 17:12:14 (permalink)
    Thanks Andy, you are most kind.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/08 22:27:14 (permalink)
    I liked it right from the start. Nice swells. Very cool results. Reading your reply to Phil, I noticed you used to following...
     
    "Each Track used the PC Channel emulation, PC76U-Type Compressor (very lightly) and the Quad Curve EQ.
    The two Busses Used:-
    Master Buss - PC Buss Console emulation, PC4K S-Type Compressor (just for glue), Quad Curve EQ, and Tape Emulator.
    Global Reverb - PC Buss Console emulation, PC4K S-Type Compressor (just for glue), Quad Curve EQ, PC ReMatrix Solo and Tape Emulator."
     
    My question, or interest is concerning the console emulation. I can't seem to notice any differences when I experiment with them. What exactly do they do to improve the sound? 
     
    Also concerning the above mentioned compressors. I record acoustic guitar, and when I record there are transient peeks that have to be tamed. I have tried to use these compressors mentioned to see if I can even them out by setting a fast attack, release and various ratio's. However, when I bounce the results and look at the wave form I cannot see any difference regarding my attack setting. They seem to squash the whole signal, as if I'm using a long attack and release. Nevertheless, I can hear a difference. The problem is I like to visually see what I am actual compressing so I can make a better judgement regarding a setting.
     
    Anyway, I like your project. I think it came out really cool for an experimental session. Unlike "BULLWINKLE", you managed to pull a very nice rabbit out of your hat!  
     
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/09 09:44:00 (permalink)
    Thank you Dean, I tend to use the CA-2A for the work you describe or I have Boz Digital's +10dB compressor.  I find the supplied are either very subtle or as you have noticed a little over the top, I tend to use them just for a little light glue.  
     
    The effect of the Channel emulation is quite subtle it adds a little noise and a few artefacts associated with the consoles they emulate.  It is an accumulative and some care needs to used when using.  I find they just add a little ambience to the sound.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/09 14:33:07 (permalink)
    absolutely loved that swell @6:03!
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/09 16:38:59 (permalink)
    Thank you James.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/11 18:58:00 (permalink)
    Dive!!!!!
     
    Love those synth patches...  clear, wide and deep.   Err, like the sea.
     

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/12 00:57:41 (permalink)
    Thank you Steve

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/12 01:44:11 (permalink)
    Interesting, but this sounds like it would be more a "outer space" sound than under the sea.  Sounds like something I could get mentally lost in if I was in the right frame of mind.
     
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/12 09:13:09 (permalink)
    Thank you John, water sea, space, inner space whatever you want it to be John.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/12 19:59:31 (permalink)
    Honestly this is one of my favorites that you've done.  I think it is because the synths employed are ideal for an open, spacey improv.  Just enjoying sitting on the futon and letting it wash over me.
    Nice one!

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/13 09:27:29 (permalink)
    Thank you Cwestmont.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/13 21:24:45 (permalink)
    Nice one Wookiee.  The swells were really swell (sorry about that).  Actually, they did give me the impression of being pushed back and forth while diving in shallow water wavy areas or in areas of current flow.  You have a talent in layering sounds and building a story in your work.  It almost made me want to pull out my tank and regulator and head down to the Keys.
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/14 15:48:13 (permalink)
    Thank you Freddy you are most kind.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/14 19:51:59 (permalink)
    Very good. Sounds like an underwater thriller

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/15 02:35:30 (permalink)
    Very nice indeed. Oftentimes the most creative stuff that comes out of us is when we're noodling and don't bother to hit record, so good job on starting the ball rolling this time! 

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/15 09:13:25 (permalink)
    Thank you Kakku.
     
    Thank you James, when the need to noodle falls on one it is all ways worth hitting record.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/22 03:09:48 (permalink)
    great job...I didn't know I could hold my breath so long..lol
     
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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/22 13:16:18 (permalink)
    Thank you Tom, appreciate the ears.

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/23 16:41:15 (permalink)
    Yes, there is a real feeling of being underwater, great synth sounds!

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    Re: Dive Under The Sea 2017/05/23 18:01:02 (permalink)
    Thank you twice Glyn

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