Benjamonk
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Bass Enhancer Plugin
Hi all,
I just wondered if any of you had any views on which included plugins (i have sonar professional) have presets or can be used to enhance bass parts.
Obviously there are EQ's available but is there anything included that would do a similar job to Waves Maxx Bass?
I used to use Maxx Bass to beef up bass guitar recordings etc.
Thanks in advance,
Ben
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 19:56:54
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Hi. Perhaps try a multi band compressor?
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 20:04:23
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the percussion strip seems to work with bass relatively well.
Id also try softubes saturation knob as well.
Don't be afraid to lightly compress your incoming bass signal with an outboard compressor either.
it tames the peaks and gives it some snap when post mixing begins.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 20:15:41
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Many plugins can be said to "enhance bass". The specific tech used in MaxxBass (and RenBass) is patented though, so it's unlikely you will find any plugins that do exactly that.
Note that I'm not making any judgments on the quality or usefulness of the process.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 21:00:20
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Curious why you would stop using MaxxBass if you like it?
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 21:11:34
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 21:14:19
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☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2017/05/08 13:28:20
I see some good advice on bass processing here by the way, but for those who don't know exactly what MaxxBass does - it separates the audio into highs and lows with an adjustable crossover point. Then, for every fundamental it finds in the lows, it generates upper harmonics. You can then use sliders to blend the original fundamental and the generated harmonics. You could even lower the level of the fundamental and there will be a psychoacoustic effect of it being there. The main purpose of this is to let deep bass translate better to smaller speakers, although of course the creative sky is the limit.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 21:24:02
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If you have melodyne, make a copy of the bass track and drop that whole copied track an octave then blend with original to taste. - Anderton trick. Another thing you can do is phase rotate the bass track with the free stardust vst. http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=535 I've done both plus the obligatory compression to the bass on the lead track in the link in my sig.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 21:32:11
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/05/06 22:28:04
That Melodyne trick is sort of the opposite of what MaxxBass does and phase rotating (whatever that may be) sounds like something else entirely.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/06 22:13:03
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 10:19:31
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cboshuizen
I've been enjoying SK10 lately.
https://www.wavesfactory.com/product/sk10/
It's free.
I'd never heard of SK10, I have done a bit of research and it looks good. I will download that later today. Many thanks.
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Benjamonk
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 10:20:24
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Thank you, i've not tried the percussion strip on a bass track, i will give that a go..
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Benjamonk
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 10:23:28
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I had a standalone copy of Maxxbass years ago, on a disc. Disc long gone!
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 10:25:37
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JonD
http://nickfever.com/music/blog/2015/bass-enhancer-vst-or-maxxbass-alternative
Also, there's the freebie Sanford Bass Tightener.
Or, you can get the original (or similar) from Waves. Waves Maxx Bass, Renaissance Bass, and Lo Air are all on sale now for $29 each.
Some retailers discount further -- for example, everyplugin's price is $24.29. (You'll need to register first).
Yeah, you're right, the current waves sale is making thinks pretty good value for money. I've just forked out on some new studio monitors so I may have to wait a while before i make some plugin purchases though! Thanks for the tip off about the sanford bass plugin - i will give that a try.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 14:58:26
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Some cool freebies, thanks! I know I'm sounding like a broken record by now, but SK10 does the opposite of MaxxBass. It's probably the name of the plug that makes one assume it adds bass, when in effect it adds upper harmonics.
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Benjamonk
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 20:38:31
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Sanderxpander
Some cool freebies, thanks! I know I'm sounding like a broken record by now, but SK10 does the opposite of MaxxBass. It's probably the name of the plug that makes one assume it adds bass, when in effect it adds upper harmonics.
Sorry, meant to say earlier in the day, youre explanation / difference of maxxbass and the harmonics was really useful. I understand that now, thank you.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 20:47:58
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What about Boz Bark of Dog? It's a freebie and should already be included with Prochannel.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 22:03:41
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Take a look at Meldas MBassador! It can recreate lost frequencies, and also manipulate different harmonics and octaves on the bass signal. You have to fix the "dynamics" with other plugins, but to restore/enhance the bottom end, I find it very useful! https://www.meldaproduction.com/MBassador 
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 22:19:48
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Ha, I haven't tried MBassador but from the description at least one of its modules sounds closer to MaxxBass than all the others that have been mentioned.
It's much pricier than the Waves ones (on sale) though.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 22:33:26
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Sanderxpander
It's much pricier than the Waves ones (on sale) though.
Melda plug-ins go on sale for 50% off regularly, are true VST2 and VST3 plug-ins, have free updates for life, no WUP and simple serial number protection.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/07 22:44:37
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☄ Helpfulby Sheanes 2017/05/07 22:59:01
Plugin Alliance just came out with a free bass enhancer plugin called bx_subfilter. It's basically a resonant filter optimized for bass frequencies. Try it! It may be what you're looking for!
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 01:38:52
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dlesaux
Plugin Alliance just came out with a free bass enhancer plugin called bx_subfilter. It's basically a resonant filter optimized for bass frequencies. Try it! It may be what you're looking for!
This seems similar to Bark of the Dog, with a little more control
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 07:25:28
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Sanderxpander
It's much pricier than the Waves ones (on sale) though.
Melda plug-ins go on sale for 50% off regularly, are true VST2 and VST3 plug-ins, have free updates for life, no WUP and simple serial number protection.
Someone is a fan, hehe. Good to know though, I may try it out! I wonder if they licensed the tech from Waves or approached it slightly differently.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 09:13:37
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/05/08 09:52:36
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dlesaux
Plugin Alliance just came out with a free bass enhancer plugin called bx_subfilter. It's basically a resonant filter optimized for bass frequencies. Try it! It may be what you're looking for!
This seems similar to Bark of the Dog, with a little more control
You're correct Kamikaze, they're very similar. And both the same price! 
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 17:53:32
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Sanderxpander
I see some good advice on bass processing here by the way, but for those who don't know exactly what MaxxBass does - it separates the audio into highs and lows with an adjustable crossover point. Then, for every fundamental it finds in the lows, it generates upper harmonics. You can then use sliders to blend the original fundamental and the generated harmonics. You could even lower the level of the fundamental and there will be a psychoacoustic effect of it being there. The main purpose of this is to let deep bass translate better to smaller speakers, although of course the creative sky is the limit.
There is an fx-chain-preset which does a similar approach. You can find it in c:\Cakewalk Content\SONAR Platinum\FX Chain Presets\Guitars and Basses\Bass Setup 1.fxc.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 21:25:09
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Cool find! I'll check it out.
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/08 21:49:51
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What about this plugin ? variety of sound NastyLF
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Re: Bass Enhancer Plugin
2017/05/09 07:21:07
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I just came across Sonic Anomaly's plugins today: http://sonic.supermaailma.net/plugins You might want to try Bass Professor or Bass Professor II (scroll down towards the bottom of the page). There are lots of other free goodies to try there as well.
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