Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off

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Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off

There should be a little icon in the track view to show if ripple editing is On or Off.
This function is great and saves me a lot of time. But I don't know if the function is on or off - befor I look into the options-menu.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 22:25:30 (permalink)
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 23:15:50 (permalink)
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 23:31:31 (permalink)
    THambrecht
    There should be a little icon in the track view to show if ripple editing is On or Off.
    This function is great and saves me a lot of time. But I don't know if the function is on or off - befor I look into the options-menu.


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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 23:42:25 (permalink)
    +1

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 23:46:12 (permalink)
    +1 please. Also, indication of what mode it is in.
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/27 23:54:15 (permalink)
    I love the new Ripple Edit feature, and I appreciate the work that was put into making it work great, but yes, I'd also like to see an indicator icon to let you know if it's on or off.   I realize updating the UI to add such an icon is additional work for the Bakers, but if you could maybe fit it into a near-future update, that would be much appreciated.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 00:00:45 (permalink)
    +1. This is kind of a need-to-know thing.
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 00:05:58 (permalink)
    +1

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 16:08:40 (permalink)
    +1

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 16:15:36 (permalink)
    The way I look at it is, it shouldn't be on all the time and only engaged when needed.
    So an On/Off icon does seem like a good idea, however, im not sure the sense it makes considering Ripple editing should be something turned on for use and then turned off when finished.
     
    In other words, you should know when its on and not need a icon.
    Because you engaged it for a reason.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 16:38:03 (permalink)
    I think icon can easily be lost out of sight. Changed cursor when hovering over clips would be a lot more informative.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 17:45:59 (permalink)
    Or both...hover over is easy to program.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 22:16:26 (permalink)
    +1 would be so useful indeed

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/28 22:30:09 (permalink)
    +1 here


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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/29 07:54:59 (permalink)
    +1 from me.
     
    My suggestion is to add another row of icons to the Mix module in the Control Bar. Here's a quick 5 minute mockup:
     

     
    So the top one is an icon showing the state of the crossfade menu. Long-click would bring up default types (linear, slow in / fast out, etc.). Off is disabled.
     
    The next one is the ripple editing. Off is disabled. Long-clicking would bring up a menu to change between ripple selected and ripple all.
     
    No idea what to put on that bottom blank icon yet. I'm sure there's something in a menu I'd like to have a visual cue from.
     
    In both of those cases, the icon would change to whatever mode is selected.
     
    Handy because this module could be hidden if it's cluttering up too much, or if you could set a view (small, auto, etc.) where the new row of icons could be hidden, for people who like it how it is.
     
    Best of both worlds, and for people like me who prefer to have stuff there at a glace, no menu digging.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/29 09:19:33 (permalink)
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    +1 from me.
     
    My suggestion is to add another row of icons to the Mix module in the Control Bar. Here's a quick 5 minute mockup:
     

     
    So the top one is an icon showing the state of the crossfade menu. Long-click would bring up default types (linear, slow in / fast out, etc.). Off is disabled.
     
    The next one is the ripple editing. Off is disabled. Long-clicking would bring up a menu to change between ripple selected and ripple all.
     
    No idea what to put on that bottom blank icon yet. I'm sure there's something in a menu I'd like to have a visual cue from.
     
    In both of those cases, the icon would change to whatever mode is selected.
     
    Handy because this module could be hidden if it's cluttering up too much, or if you could set a view (small, auto, etc.) where the new row of icons could be hidden, for people who like it how it is.
     
    Best of both worlds, and for people like me who prefer to have stuff there at a glace, no menu digging.


    Now that's a good idea 
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/29 12:59:59 (permalink)
    +1

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/29 14:53:15 (permalink)
    While in theory I agree, and certainly wouldn't mind if there was some kind of obvious indicator, in practice Chuck is right - it's something you turn on, do your edit, and turn off. Before I got into the habit of doing that, I ran into problems doing ripple editing in Vegas, and its little icon being illuminated wasn't sufficiently rude to get my attention. 
     
    Maybe there should be an option to trigger ripple editing with a momentary footswitch 

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/29 14:56:28 (permalink)
    Perhaps have it appear as a right click option (Ripple Delete Selected/Ripple Delete All), for one time firing, instead of being a "mode".  I'll admit I was confused thinking it should be on the edit menu or right click menu and couldn't find it.
     

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/30 23:45:20 (permalink)
    Change the mouse pointer to show that you are in ripple edit mode. Many video editing platforms have a button to select and show that ripple editing is engaged (and for slip slide etc). So it would be incredibly handy to have some kind of indication. I think a lot of people will have problems with this feature otherwise and the solution is probably very simple.
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 01:52:57 (permalink)
    Mouse pointer change is a really smart idea, assuming of course that it's implementable. Better than an indicator IMHO.

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 15:57:01 (permalink)
    In the last days i changed from ripple editing to normal editing 20 or 30 times during the day. And each time I didn't know in which modus I am.
    If I was the programmer i would make a second dropbox-menu left to the lense menu (Ripple Edit Selection - Ripple Edit All - Normal Editing).
    So I can see the mode and can change it quickly - for example by shortcut. And everyone would understand that. To change additionally the mouse pointer would be great.
     

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 16:44:52 (permalink)
    Lord Tim
    +1 from me.
     
    My suggestion is to add another row of icons to the Mix module in the Control Bar. Here's a quick 5 minute mockup:
     

     
    So the top one is an icon showing the state of the crossfade menu. Long-click would bring up default types (linear, slow in / fast out, etc.). Off is disabled.
     
    The next one is the ripple editing. Off is disabled. Long-clicking would bring up a menu to change between ripple selected and ripple all.
     
    No idea what to put on that bottom blank icon yet. I'm sure there's something in a menu I'd like to have a visual cue from.
     
    In both of those cases, the icon would change to whatever mode is selected.
     
    Handy because this module could be hidden if it's cluttering up too much, or if you could set a view (small, auto, etc.) where the new row of icons could be hidden, for people who like it how it is.
     
    Best of both worlds, and for people like me who prefer to have stuff there at a glace, no menu digging.


    Plus eleventy-eleven for BOTH indicators as described above: one for cross-fades and one for Ripple Edit status.
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 16:53:54 (permalink)
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    In the last days i changed from ripple editing to normal editing 20 or 30 times during the day. And each time I didn't know in which modus I am.
    If I was the programmer i would make a second dropbox-menu left to the lense menu (Ripple Edit Selection - Ripple Edit All - Normal Editing).
    So I can see the mode and can change it quickly - for example by shortcut. And everyone would understand that. To change additionally the mouse pointer would be great.
     


    I've been looking at the GUI to see where a button(s) could go. It's clear that it definitely needs a button and indicator. In video editing GUIs you normally have radio style (latching) buttons to switch from slip edit to ripple edit. In Sonar the obvious place to put buttons or a single latching button with a long click menu (to select ripple edit all), would be on the tools module where the other edit buttons are. It could go next to the "Event draw duration" dropdown (Ripple - highlighted for on). In addition, it should have a mouse pointer icon to instantly show you are in ripple edit mode consistent with the other edit mouse pointer icons. These should be pretty easy to implement. If I was the GUI/UX designer for Sonar, these would be the logical additions - not just a hidden menu item as is there at the moment.
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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 20:48:58 (permalink)
    But the icon should definitely be an ice cream!

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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 21:25:39 (permalink)
    Put it beside the Sonar name in the Tools module


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    Re: Request: There should be a little icon if ripple editing is On or Off 2017/05/31 23:39:40 (permalink)
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    But the icon should definitely be an ice cream!

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