Another song by NOC titled Once.

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2017/06/10 00:56:02 (permalink)

Another song by NOC titled Once.

Over a year into recording music using my first DAW - Sonar.  I think I finally have a better understanding of how to use it. 
That's me on the background vocals and the telephone effect vocals singing, "Tell me."
The drums are AD2 programmed by me, I played the bass guitar, rhythm guitar, and some of the lead guitar. 
Marc did the main vocals and the crunch rhythm guitar over the verses.  
Anyway - please rip the mix to hell because I really still do not know what I am doing.  I think the guitars are too loud, but I mixed it and I play guitar. Usually I turn them down right away to make up for it.  But, I used subtractive EQ, EQ carving, HPF and compression to get to this mix.  I also used LPF on the background vocals which brought them out more.  After all this time, I figured out that EQ is nothing more than a smart volume knob.  Please, let me know what you think and don't hold back.  I am not one these thin skinned pansy ass Americans who are offended at every last thing.  Let it rip!  Thanks everyone. 
https://soundcloud.com/user-509713656/once
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    Re: Another song by NOC titled Once. 2017/06/10 10:47:01 (permalink)
    No expert on mixing but it sounds over compressed to me, the lead vocals could do with being a tad more forward and present.  Interesting thought on EQ being "nothing more than a smart volume knob", more a selective one perhaps.

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    Re: Another song by NOC titled Once. 2017/06/10 14:32:26 (permalink)
    Rockin' tune.  I was just listening on my pc speakers, but the mix sounded ok on them.  Vocals could be more present though.  

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    Re: Another song by NOC titled Once. 2017/06/14 19:33:24 (permalink)
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    Please, let me know what you think and don't hold back.  I am not one these thin skinned pansy ass Americans who are offended at every last thing.  Let it rip!  Thanks everyone. 
    https://soundcloud.com/user-509713656/once




    OK, I had to laugh at the one.   
     
    Good song, I liked it.  Guitars sound good here, wide and present.  Maybe a notch too loud in the arrangement...   The drums seem to lack a bit of "snap" and the vocals are sitting under the music - perhaps as Wooks noted the overall mix is a bit overcompressed and could use to breathe a little more.   But what I hear only needs some tweaking.

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    Re: Another song by NOC titled Once. 2017/06/15 04:21:12 (permalink)
    It's so ironic that I'm offended.
     
    Not really.
     
    First, the guitars sound really great. And so do the drums. And the slightly off-kilter change of meter is very inventive and welcome.
     
    It's hard to harmonize a bgv when the lead vocal is falling, dropping off, decreasing in pitch. Sounds pretty close though.
     
    I hear the style of Pearl Jam being aimed at! That's a great target and you get there. Mix-wise I didn't mind the compression, nothing sounded too spitty to me. Cool tune. You might rethink the cuss word, I think it cheapens your effort a little. Just my .02 
     
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    Re: Another song by NOC titled Once. 2017/07/03 15:33:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for the input. I think the over compressed part is because I used one of the L limters from Waves and like an old school analog mixer, I brought the threshold down too much on the master - going to try it again with that and not push it down as much.
    And Tom - I have said that many times about the cursing.
    You guys - thanks again for all your feedbac, advice, and tips!
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