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2017/06/16 03:59:12 (permalink)

Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused

I love my console 1 and had a few gripes about how it integrated with SPLAT - that is  until I tried the VST 3 plugin.  Wonderful communications - track names, pans, volumes.... all controlled with the C1 in SPLAT.  I had no idea.
 
Now I am wondering what I have missed in my countless other plugins.  For the most part, I never installed the VST3s because I thought that was a Qbase thingy and just ignored it.
 
Now I am at least partially seeing what I have missed.  Of course, I got Melodyne in VST3 so I could do the clip effect thing.  
 
What wonders are out there awaiting a soul brave to sail the VST3 seas?  Or is it still novel?

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 11:52:45 (permalink)
The experience varies but in general if provided you should definitely install and use the VST3 version of plugins. While many plugin vendors just use standard VST2 features under VST3, there have been various extensions to VST3 that some plugins take advantage of. Console One is such an example but there are many others that use VST3 specific features such as Softube, Waves etc.

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 13:15:58 (permalink)
I agree completely with Noel's comment. It is rare these days that the VST3 version of a plugin is not as solid as the VST2 version, so you should use it be default.
 
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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 13:24:05 (permalink)
I haven't had any trouble with VST3 for a long time now. I think they are very stable. 

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 13:27:35 (permalink)
I jumped on the VST 3 train as early as possible (back when Cakewalk first introduced it).
And I have been happy ever since. Never really had any issues at all.

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 14:42:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2017/06/16 17:37:52
I'm so happy with VST3 I can hardly wait to see what VST4 does.
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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 19:31:24 (permalink)
dang it.  now i need to go back and figger what i have that has vst3s.  
 
 
thanks for opining y'all all.  

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 20:11:30 (permalink)
well my most used plugins are not vst3!  UAD, Soundtoys....arturia.  dang

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 20:18:59 (permalink)
I wouldn't do a total reboot just to install any VST 3 plug ins you have. VST 2 is still great. 
Just don't be afraid to install them in the future.

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 20:29:30 (permalink)
oops - arturia is vst3!  but not my other faves!

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 20:53:09 (permalink)
The only problem I have run into with VST3 is the u-he synths.  Based on a posted FAQ I read a while back, apparently Urs is still wrangling the code for his VST3 plugins. He recommends sticking with his VST2 until he gets it worked out.
 
https://www.u-he.com/cms/faqs#know-vst3-issues
 

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 21:25:14 (permalink)
Hi. I have installed the Vst3 version of all the plugins (exept SPAN, that has caused me some issues) that have that option since it became available. 
Welcome to the true power of Console 1 
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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 22:09:34 (permalink)
bapu
I'm so happy with VST3 I can hardly wait to see what VST4 does.


It'll probably do the same thing - just with a monthly subscription and patch Tuesday auto-updates

You will have to wait until VST5 to be able to use stock price trends and weather forecast as morph source ... and rumour has it that VST6 will then be bidirectional as regards morph and previously named external sources ...

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 22:15:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/06/16 23:12:39
With some VSTs, your only choice is to use the VST3 version. For example the VST2 version of Diffuse by Surreal Machines causes Sonar to hang, but the VST3 version is absolutely fine.
 

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 23:15:41 (permalink)
Another VST2 that I recently noticed had problems was the Oril River Reverb.  https://www.kvraudio.com/...river-by-denis-tihanov
 
The VST3 seems OK, but in my use the VST2 resets to default parameters when you re-open a project.

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Re: Fear of VST3 and the mistakes it caused 2017/06/16 23:53:56 (permalink)
It seems that that problem is not particular to Sonar. It also appears to happen in other DAWs:
 
http://www.kvraudio.com/f...amp;start=225#p6807708

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