Midi output port issue

I had a somewhat similar issue when one of my midi devices lost power and Sonar reassigned all of the midi tracks to whatever was left. I'd like this to be something we can either avoid by having Sonar ask "One of your devices is missing. Would you like to reassign midi ports?" or turn off completely. Especially in the middle of a session.
 
Regards,
Dan

tenfoot
Sonar/windows seems to save the midi port order/number rather than refencing a specific device. If you remove devices or change the order, as long as there are still enough ports, Sonar has no way of knowing anything has changed. In this case you will need to reassign the correct port outputs manually.
 
If you remove devices and there are not as many midi ports as the saved project, Sonar will alert you via a dialogue box upon opening the project and you are given the opportunity to reassign the outputs.

In this case, Sonar didn't alert me. It simply reassigned all of the midi track outputs to a different input. When would it make any sense to reroute midi tracks connected to VST instruments to a different VST? En masse?
 
Regards,
Dan

tenfoot

dcumpian

tenfoot
Sonar/windows seems to save the midi port order/number rather than refencing a specific device. If you remove devices or change the order, as long as there are still enough ports, Sonar has no way of knowing anything has changed. In this case you will need to reassign the correct port outputs manually.
 
If you remove devices and there are not as many midi ports as the saved project, Sonar will alert you via a dialogue box upon opening the project and you are given the opportunity to reassign the outputs.

In this case, Sonar didn't alert me. It simply reassigned all of the midi track outputs to a different input. When would it make any sense to reroute midi tracks connected to VST instruments to a different VST? En masse?
 
Regards,
Dan

Agreed that Sonar should never re-assign VST outputs Dan, provided you have not removed the VST synth. I haven't ever had that issue. I was referring to external midi ports. I presume that is what the OP was talking about as they disable them under preferences/midi devices.

Yes, the reason my issue is related is that my hardware midi controller lost power and Sonar dropped it. That's when the reassignment occurred, with no warning. When I closed and reopened the project (without saving), then I got the warning about the missing midi device and rebooted instead.
 
Regards,
Dan

Replicate :

1) platinum new project
2) Edit>Prefernces>Midi>Devices , make sure all midi devices are UNCHECKED
3) add 2 x instance of true piano ( midi + primary)
3) Note: 1st True piano midi track output name = ( 1-TruePianos Cakewalk1) / output dropdown = 1st midi output
4) Note: 2nd True Piano midi track output name = ( 2-TruePianos Cakewalk2) / output dropdown = 2nd midi output
5) Now go into : Edit>Prefernces>Midi>Devices>Outputs > CHECK / add 1 virtual midi device (loopbe 1) > click apply
6) Go to 1st True Piano midi track and click on the output / drop down menu

RESULTS ARE ;

A) loopbe 1 is now the first midi output in the output drop down menu pushing 1st and 2nd true piano primary's outputs to number 2 and 3 .
B) 1st true piano midi output retains its position in the output dropdown list (1st) subsequently now outputting to loop be 1.
C) 2nd True Piano midi output retains its position in the output dopdown list ( 2nd) subsequently now outputting to True Piano 1.

There is however a very BRIGHT LIGHT ! WORKAROUND

You can open Edit>Preferences>Midi>Devices > (Output or Input ) and CHECK OR UNCHECK midi devics as you please which will retain all midi track Synth outputs to there respective Primary Outputs .
BUT ONLY if you :
A) CHECK OR UNCHECK BEFORE You open a project
B) CHECK OR UNCHECK AFTER You close a project (same thing as A
C) DO NOT CHECK OR UNCHECK MIDI DEVICES WHILE YOU HAVE A PROJECT OPENED .

GRASSYASSS AMIGOS