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Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
And I love it. Plugin. Small footprint. Wonderful rotor. http://gg-audio.com
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/07 14:07:47
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Sounds good in the demo tracks so I have downloaded the demo version. Its got some pretty stiff competition in my collection already including VB3, Vintage Organs and the Arturia B-3 V all of which have their own strengths, so its going to have to be pretty compelling for me to spend the $99.
And I have started looking into Aeon Satori the band who track is featured in the demos, sound right up my street.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/07 14:31:21
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And there's AcousticSamples B5. But this GG-Audio Blue3 beats them fair and square. Just look at all the sonic options. And then there's that sound.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/07 14:50:48
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I think VB3 sounds better, but only just. Blue3 sounds just a tad "synthy". However, VB3 is getting pretty long in the tooth and VB4 was promised for a long time and there still isn't any news. Like Glyn, I have Vintage Organs as well, which is a pretty nice option, though it is not a "alive" as VB3.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/07 15:04:43
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I think VB3 sounds better, but only just. Blue3 sounds just a tad "synthy". However, VB3 is getting pretty long in the tooth and VB4 was promised for a long time and there still isn't any news. Like Glyn, I have Vintage Organs as well, which is a pretty nice option, though it is not a "alive" as VB3.
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That's a great way of saying it. Some samples one don't sound alive. A well played organ does seem to have some life in it. I could never think of how to communicate what I was or was not hearing. Thanks Dan.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/07 15:13:29
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2017/07/07 15:24:40
I have just been playing around with it and I like it alot but not quite enough to part with $99 given my existing options. The copy protection noise was getting very annoying and probably stopped me diggeing deeper at the moment but I will return.
I think the "condition controls" are more effective than some and the tonewheel sets do add to the variation in colour. One has to remember though that VB3 has many of these type of options under the hood, hidden away in menus.
Percussion seem very good and I was able to easily get a very percussive sound.
I think Arturia's B3-V has the most sonic options even if a lot of those options depart from pure emulation of the original. I will use it when I want to modulate drawbar settings for example but not when I want "authentic" hammond sounds. Then its VO via Melda's Vintage Rotary or VB3.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/08 01:45:39
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...VB3 is getting pretty long in the tooth...
What an odd comment, given that we're talking about an emulation of an instrument nearly 100 years old!  I agree, VB3 is the standard to which all contenders must be compared. This Blue3 does sound great, has nearly every feature that VB3 offers, but at twice the price it's gonna be a hard sell.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/08 02:01:22
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I've also tried many different Hammond B3 plugins/emulators. My original favorite was (the now discontinued) Native Instruments B4-II. IMHO their replacement (Vintage Organs) was a major step down in the quality of sound for a realistic sounding B3 organ. My second choice, and what I've been using lately is VB3, which is very close in quality to the NI B4-II.
I also used to own a Nord Electro keyboard, which sounded the closest to the real thing, but unfortunately I had to sell it a few years ago due to financial difficulties.
My question is how does Blue3 compare to NI's B4-II?
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/08 02:29:12
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"My question is how does Blue3 compare to NI's B4-II? "
Well, I guess to answer my own question, I downloaded the demo and went through all the rock presets (having spent just a few minutes with each) I think it definitely is a contender. I did a side by side comparison to the B4-II
and it sounds like it has a little more punch. The Leslie speaker sim is pretty good too.
I agree that some of the presets do sound a bit "synthy" as someone commented, but many of the other presets sound very natural. It's a tough call. But for $99, you can't really complain. I'm thinking when payday rolls around I might just get it.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/10 12:39:07
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dcumpian
...VB3 is getting pretty long in the tooth...
What an odd comment, given that we're talking about an emulation of an instrument nearly 100 years old!
I agree, VB3 is the standard to which all contenders must be compared. This Blue3 does sound great, has nearly every feature that VB3 offers, but at twice the price it's gonna be a hard sell.
I'm pretty sure you are being humorous, but just in case, VB3 has some long-standing issues that really should be worked out. I was hoping VB4 (VB3 2?) would be released, but it doesn't sound like the author/vendor is working on it much, if at all. Granted, the issues are somewhat minor niggles, but I've run into bigger ones here and there. Still use it though, which says a lot. I'm quick to ditch a plugin that gives me grief during a session. Regards, Dan
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/10 15:45:59
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Can you elaborate, Dan? VB3 is my go-to organ, and I use organs a lot, but I haven't run into any issues yet. I'd like to know what to watch out for, even if they are just minor niggles. I've only heard about problems with Logic and ProTools, which don't apply to me.
BTW, there really is a VB3 version 2, but you can't buy it. At least, not as a plugin. It's in the Crumar Mojo.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/10 16:10:36
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From KVR: "For me the biggest letdown of VB3 is that stuff like Global Tuning, Type, Leakage Level, Tonewheel Scaling, Perc. Decay/Level, Wind Noise, Speaker Type, Scanner depth etc. etc. are all stored globally.
In other words, if you change those for one song, they will change for any song you made or will make, since they are not stored in a preset (and thus DAW project)."
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/10 17:35:56
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Can you elaborate, Dan? VB3 is my go-to organ, and I use organs a lot, but I haven't run into any issues yet. I'd like to know what to watch out for, even if they are just minor niggles. I've only heard about problems with Logic and ProTools, which don't apply to me.
BTW, there really is a VB3 version 2, but you can't buy it. At least, not as a plugin. It's in the Crumar Mojo.
Primarily, I've had issues with organs in a project sounding different when I open the project in a different session. After tweaking an organ patch for what seems like hours, it can be frustrating. I've found the safest way to work with it is to create a preset in my project that I can reload when things go wonky. I've also had the sound get rather noisy and had to close and reopen the project. That one is rarer. Not buying the Crumar though, lol... Regards, Dan
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/11 01:44:56
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So if you restore a project it sounds different, but if you load a preset it's OK? That's weird. And almost certainly a VB3 bug. I'll have to keep an ear out for that one, although I haven't noticed it to date.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/11 01:54:03
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From KVR: "For me the biggest letdown of VB3 is that stuff like Global Tuning, Type, Leakage Level, Tonewheel Scaling, Perc. Decay/Level, Wind Noise, Speaker Type, Scanner depth etc. etc. are all stored globally.
In other words, if you change those for one song, they will change for any song you made or will make, since they are not stored in a preset (and thus DAW project)."
Never noticed that before, but your source is right. I just changed the Type, and now that's the new Type for any past or future instance of VB3. This could give some unexpected results (like Dan's observation above) when you come back to a project. Good thing I never change the Type parameter.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/11 15:04:20
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just downloaded the demo version and I'm impressed enough to seriously consider an impulse purchase, lol. I love the clicky jazz presets (being a jazz player) and the other presets sound great to my ears, too, even without any tweaking yet. However, after a few minutes I got a Sonar crash, and am hoping this is not because of the plug-in.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/12 02:12:35
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I took part in the beta. This developer is so dedicated. Just shoot him an email and ask.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/15 13:48:17
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I'm really on the fence about Blue3. And I've read in this forum, as well as the KVR and other forums that most people either prefer GSi's VB3 or Blue3 (with several choosing a couple of other B3 emulators)
VB3 does the job, and as a lot of people have mentioned, they think it comes closest sounding to the real thing more than any other B3 plugin.
I think it comes down to the differences in VB3 and Blue 3 is not that one is better sounding than the other, they just have a different overall sound. Each equally authentic sounding but in slightly different ways. (even though there is that slightly synthy sound in Blue3 on certain presets)
The choice for me would be easy, if I had an extra $100 lying around, I'd add Blue3 to my collection of virtual instruments in a second. But as it is, I'm on a tight budget and I'd have to do some creative financial juggling in order to get Blue3.
I'll probably end up getting it next month or the month after that, but in the meantime, I'm perfectly satisfied with VB3, and even the old Native Instruments B4-II.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/15 13:54:35
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Leee
I've also tried many different Hammond B3 plugins/emulators. My original favorite was (the now discontinued) Native Instruments B4-II. IMHO their replacement (Vintage Organs) was a major step down in the quality of sound for a realistic sounding B3 organ. My second choice, and what I've been using lately is VB3, which is very close in quality to the NI B4-II.
I also used to own a Nord Electro keyboard, which sounded the closest to the real thing, but unfortunately I had to sell it a few years ago due to financial difficulties.
My question is how does Blue3 compare to NI's B4-II?
I agree, NI's B4II is the best B3 emulation that I have heard. In fact I am still using it.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/15 23:47:46
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I've also tried many different Hammond B3 plugins/emulators. My original favorite was (the now discontinued) Native Instruments B4-II. IMHO their replacement (Vintage Organs) was a major step down in the quality of sound for a realistic sounding B3 organ. My second choice, and what I've been using lately is VB3, which is very close in quality to the NI B4-II.
I also used to own a Nord Electro keyboard, which sounded the closest to the real thing, but unfortunately I had to sell it a few years ago due to financial difficulties.
My question is how does Blue3 compare to NI's B4-II?
I agree, NI's B4II is the best B3 emulation that I have heard. In fact I am still using it.
I've actually changed my opinion on NI's B4-II. While I still think it's one of the better sounding B3 plugins, after doing extensive side-by-side comparisons of B4-II, VB3, and Blue3, I now think the real comparison should be between VB3 and Blue3 (as I mentioned in my previous post). It's a very close and difficult comparison. Depending upon which presets you use and how much you tweak all the adjustments in both plugins, some VB3 sounds have a warmer (less synth) tone, while other preset have Blue3 sounding superior. I can make convincing Hammond B3 parts from all 3 of these plugins, and if you already have B4-II or VB3, buying Blue3 is not a necessity for getting a solid Hammond B3 sound. But if you don't have anything else, or have the money to spend on Blue3, I would definitely recommend getting it. Most of my songs have a Hammond B3 in them, so this instrument is very important to me. Obviously nothing is like having the real thing, or even the Nord Electro keyboard (which I used to own) produced superior sounds. But as far as software plugins go, Blue3 comes pretty darn close.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/16 01:46:28
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What's the footprint of these contenders?
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/16 08:24:58
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What's the footprint of these contenders?
VB3 is very light on resources, old school VSTi, no samples. I have not compared the size of the dll with blue but both are so small its an irrelevant comparison. As an aside I also love Sampletekk's Tonewheel for really dirty, aggressive sounds, not for your everyday organ use but if you want to spice things up a bit.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/16 12:55:04
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Thanks Glyn. Quite remarkable that all this is possible without samples. Don't know why Pianoteq never got to do organs.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/07/16 16:44:49
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With VB3, UVI Retro Organ Suite (I'm surprised this one doesn't get more love in the forums. UVI updated/expanded their Organ Suite to this late 2015 and I thought they did a great job), and Melda's Vintage Rotary, I'm pretty much set on the organ front.
At least, that's what I'm telling myself to combat the GAS and stop buying every new plugin just because it's the latest and greatest B3 organ/multitap-delay/didgeridoo since, well, the last B3 organ/multitap-delay/didgeridoo that suckered me in.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
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☄ Helpfulby tagruvto 2017/08/22 13:47:21
Still, would love to hear from Toontrack.
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Re: Blue3 is a new B3 organ plugin from GG-Audio
2017/08/21 13:56:25
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Now includes a separate Leslie plug-in.
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