Sonar Supporting ARA - First in the game!

I would say "Early Adopter" is more accurate. I believe first honors go to Presonus.

Like Hertz, we try harder.

The Manual is 272 pages long for Melodyne Studio.  I'm only on page 19, but I now know why, and when to use Region FX and when to use the FX Bin.  The difference is crucial, as it turns out.  But as a rule I now follow this regimen:
 
Region Effect - When I am working on a single track, perhaps with split up clips in it or the track as a whole.
FX Bin - When I am working on a track with take lanes (comped)
 
We have talked about the difference before and concluded there wasn't much of a difference if any at all.  There is a difference. A huge difference.  When working on a track with take lanes - Always Insert Melodyne into the FX Bin.
 
UPDATE: That rule just flew out the window.  The FX bin did not accomplish what I thought the manual said it would.  Come back rule!  Come back!  Alas...it is gone.

Thedoccal
Pro Tools doesn't even support it!  Wow!

I've been saying this ever since soon after Pro Tools appeared and an engineering student was trying to convince me that it was the only Profesional DAW out there because its the "industry standard" - I bit his head off (and a few months later he's opened his eyes once he's realised the limitations of PT).... PT might be the industry standard, but industry standards are mostly crap. Most of the industry standards from when I was full time in the industry have been over priced crap. E.g. I never walked into a control room without seeing a pair of Yamaha NS 10Ms (and had to have a pair myself because people would insist on it - they are still changing hands for way over what they are worth), or be offered a set of Beya DT 100s to put on my head (and have to have several pairs to provide to musicians because that's what they would insist on). There are many, much better alternatives, but these became the standards.
 
I have used PT on many occasions since it first became "the standard" and always hated it. People rave about it because it's the standard, but "standard" is literally what it is! Nothing more than that. It lacks all sorts of stuff, handles everything inefficiently, bogs down when you add some plugins, limits your track count and workflow etc.
This is why I've been using Sonar almost exclusively for years and why I'm glad it never became a standard. Cakewalk has always been alternative, innovative, and a driving force for change and improvement, just like me and I think that's why I always found a partner in Sonar.  [end of rant]
 

Double post....

stevec
 
FWIW, the 06 update now allows comping of Melodyne clips - you can slip edit, split, etc., while retaining the Region FX.   And with Melodyne Studio you can view/edit multiple clips/tracks in the same Melodyne window, choosing either Clip or Track mode to control the blobs you see.  Good stuff.

Thanks.  I think the rule may be back...viewing comped tracks in Clip Mode was what I was missing.
Indeed, in clip mode, with many comped lanes "Melodyned", I can double-click on the comped track in (Sonar's Track View) and it will appear in the Melodyne window.  I was hoping to populate the Track View in Melodyne with a list of comped tracks, but it will only list the "Mother" and any other regular tracks opened into Melodyne.  But this is OK as Sonar's track view is just a screen away and I get a better visual cue of the comped track I want to fix next from it.  But my fantasy "rule" about the FX bin is pretty much a moot point, since inserted in the FX Bin, Melodyne no longer uses ARA...so actually I'm back to wondering what use it is in the FX bin.  Using Region FX activates ARA, and that is what we are after.  More...
 
In Track mode, Melodyne and Sonar will show me all the clips at once that I am working on, with no ability to ghost any of them.  In Clip mode, Melodyne and Sonar will let me see clip at a time, but I can double click Melodyne-enabled clips in Sonar's track view to change the blob sequence to another clip.
 
I imagine a future feature may be to populate that Track View list in Melodyne with Sonar take lane clips, so they can be ghosted like an ordinary track.  This was what I originally thought might be the case if inserted into the FX bin...but that isn't close to being accurate at the moment...or ever.