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Advance playhead by frames?
To anyone using SONAR to mix soundtracks...
Is there a way to advance the playhead/video one frame at a time? Sometimes lining up a sound effects requires frame-by-frame navigation and I'm not seeing a way to do that in SONAR.
I know I can set the nudge feature to move a clip frame by frame, but I'm referring to the actual playhead. So essentially I want to view the video and go forward/back one frame at a time.
Thanks.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/30 21:38:22
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You might be able to "Navigate" using TAB key. Have you tried that already ?
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/30 22:03:53
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Hi. Isn't it possible to set one of the "nudge" keys (in Preferences) to shift equivalent to a frame?
All the best.
Edit: I might have misread the question.
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streckfus
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 00:27:32
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chuckebaby
You might be able to "Navigate" using TAB key. Have you tried that already ?
It seems to move me forward arbitrarily, not frame by frame. Good idea though, hadn't thought of the navigator.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 00:28:38
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Zargg
Hi. Isn't it possible to set one of the "nudge" keys (in Preferences) to shift equivalent to a frame?
All the best.
Edit: I might have misread the question.
Yeah, but nudge moves a particular clip by a pre-defined amount (say, one frame), but I want to move the playhead, not a clip. Like in Premiere Pro where you can move through the timeline frame by frame by hitting the arrow buttons. I was hoping to do something similar in SONAR.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 00:43:37
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I did something some years ago where I had to do this in an older version of Sonar, but I can't remember for the life of me how I did it. I seem to remember changing the timeline to display SMPTE time code so that I had frames and I was able to advance and **** by single frames. I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but from memory, I was able to do this.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 04:08:22
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Use the "Event List"... highlite the audio clip or midi note you are trying to place. Call up the Event List View and you will see columns with sympte time code and columns of beats/measure/ticks. If you have highlited the event you want to move it will have a black mark next to it and be easy to find if you have many events on that particular track. You can move event back and forth by frames or as small as ticks, have the video picture move, by hitting "+ or -" on the numbers pad.
When I'm in a hurry, want to find a frame and have not yet recorded a midi event or dropped in an audio clip , I just enlarge the time line and click on the time line in small increments... it will be one frame at a time if you have enlarged it enough.
Hope that solves your issue.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 08:14:40
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/07/31 09:46:28
I don't really score to movie much but this seems an odd omission indeed. Isn't there anything you could make a key binding of? I use CTRL+PGUP/PGDN a lot to move the playhead by a whole measure, or with SHIFT to jump between markers. Oh and FWIW, Tab isn't random, it's jumping to the next transient on the focused track.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 16:22:05
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You can turn on Aim Assist (type X), set the Snap to 1 Frame, and then the cursor will snap to single frame increments. Click to set the now time where the cursor snaps.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 16:24:24
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I don't really score to movie much but this seems an odd omission indeed. Isn't there anything you could make a key binding of? I use CTRL+PGUP/PGDN a lot to move the playhead by a whole measure, or with SHIFT to jump between markers. Oh and FWIW, Tab isn't random, it's jumping to the next transient on the focused track.
Yeah, I tried assigning PGUP/PGDN commands but I didn't find anything to bind them to. I get that SONAR isn't a video editor and I wouldn't expect it to be. It's just that since they include a video import option, it must be expected that SONAR would be used to score/mix to picture. That being the case, frame-by-frame advancement is a pretty typical operation for this sort of thing. And there does continue to be some confusion about what I'm asking. I'm not trying to move a clip or an event one frame at a time, because I can use the Nudge function for that. I'm trying to move the playhead, thereby moving the Now Time one frame at a time.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 17:00:21
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/07/31 17:12:31
streckfus
Is there a way to advance the playhead/video one frame at a time? Sometimes lining up a sound effects requires frame-by-frame navigation and I'm not seeing a way to do that in SONAR.
When the Video view has focus, you can use the PLUS (+) and MINUS (-) keys on the numeric keypad to advance by single frames. You can also use the square bracket keys ([ and ]) to advance by 5 frames.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 18:04:02
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Morten Saether [Cakewalk]
streckfus
Is there a way to advance the playhead/video one frame at a time? Sometimes lining up a sound effects requires frame-by-frame navigation and I'm not seeing a way to do that in SONAR.
When the Video view has focus, you can use the PLUS (+) and MINUS (-) keys on the numeric keypad to advance by single frames. You can also use the square bracket keys ([ and ]) to advance by 5 frames.
Ahhh! I did not know this. Very cool. I still think its easiest to head to the Event List View and PLUS (+) and MINUS (-) your way to the correct frame.
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 18:10:29
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/07/31 18:26:58
Morten Saether [Cakewalk]
When the Video view has focus, you can use the PLUS (+) and MINUS (-) keys on the numeric keypad to advance by single frames. You can also use the square bracket keys ([ and ]) to advance by 5 frames.
If those bindings are not convenient, the functions are available in the "Video View" area in Preferences > Customization > Keyboard shortcuts
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 18:28:30
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Morten Saether [Cakewalk]
When the Video view has focus, you can use the PLUS (+) and MINUS (-) keys on the numeric keypad to advance by single frames. You can also use the square bracket keys ([ and ]) to advance by 5 frames.
If those bindings are not convenient, the functions are available in the "Video View" area in Preferences > Customization > Keyboard shortcuts
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 18:43:15
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Zargg
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Same here!
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 18:46:23
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Good stuff, I learned something!
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 22:28:35
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YOU GUYS RULE!!!
Thanks everyone for the help. What a pleasant surprise! Changed the binding to left/right arrows, now I feel like I'm inside Premiere Pro, but with much better audio capabilities. :)
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Re: Advance playhead by frames?
2017/07/31 22:42:47
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This was something I have wanted to do on many occasions when spotting sound FX - You can learn a lot when you ask the right people!
Added to the memory banks!!
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