Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.19!

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Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.19!

Hi ALL!
Versions 22.11.0.111 and further - projects are loaded for 3-8 minutes longer than in version 22.10.0.19! Any projects: old, new, created in the corresponding versions, etc. More precisely, projects are loaded quickly - for 1...1.5 minutes. But after loading Sonar freezes (not recponding) for 3-8 minutes. Opened plug-ins on the second display look like this all the time until load (open) of the project ends. Plugs GUI of white color are usual plug-ins. Other - plug-ins converted with the help of jBridge.
The project with closed plug-ins opens for the same time. 
Projects created in any new version open long - 3-8 minutes. But in 22.10.0.19 the same projects open for 1-1.5 minutes.
But this is not the whole problem! Freezing Sonar for the same 3-8 minutes occurs and when making any changes to the Project Properties, for example, turning on and off the metronome and any other changes.
So I have to stay in version 22.10.0.19 !!! And then why should I pay monthly for new versions?
Help me please!
ps I've been with Cakewalk since 1995 (Cakewalk 3.0 Professional, Sonar - since 2000) and do not want to part with Sonar.
pps Sorry for my English!

post edited by Vyacheslav - 2017/08/10 07:47:00

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    chuckebaby
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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/08 14:08:58 (permalink)
    vyacheslav
    then why should I pay monthly for new versions?

    22.11.0.111 was released around a year ago correct ?
    There was a known issue with  Vienna Ensemble and the eLicenser.
     
    Is your eLicenser in a USB 3.0 slot ? If so move it to a USB 2.0 slot.
     
    Also make sure your video card is up to date. this might be a totally different issue unrelated to Sonar.
    A good way to test is: Start a new project without Vienna Ensemble. If it opens no problem then you know where to start.

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/08 14:32:41 (permalink)
    Thank you, chuckebaby!
    22.11.0.111 was released around a year ago correct ?

    Yes.
    There was a known issue with Vienna Ensemble and the eLicenser.

    Is your eLicenser in a USB 3.0 slot ? If so move it to a USB 2.0 slot.

     2.0.
    Also make sure your video card is up to date.

    The driver is the latest. But I will look.
    this might be a totally different issue unrelated to Sonar.

    With version 22.10.0.19 there are no such problems!
    post edited by Vyacheslav - 2017/08/10 07:48:15

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/08 15:11:41 (permalink)
    Then my guess is a video driver update.
    I would also look for a windows update.
    I know many plug ins now a day use Open GL. Sonar does as well. If you haven't updated your VC in a while I would start there.
     
    Start here for your HP Elite:
    https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-elitebook-8770w-mobile-workstation/5257511/drivers

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/08 16:09:09 (permalink)
    Note that there is an issue with 'some' plugins and open GL in Sonar but there is a fix.
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3555087

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/08 22:57:17 (permalink)
    Then my guess is a video driver update.

    Installed the latest (07-20-107) driver.
    I would also look for a windows update.

    I installed important updates.
    Start here for your HP Elite

    In this part is all the most relevant.
    If you haven't updated your VC in a while I would start there.

    What is VC?
    I know many plug ins now a day use Open GL. Sonar does as well.

    Open GL is installed too.
    No changes for the better. It became clear that the main problem in the Vienna Ensemble Pro VST3! In other words, Platinum from version 22.11.0.111 can not work correctly with this format!!!
    post edited by Vyacheslav - 2017/08/08 23:23:19

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/09 00:51:36 (permalink)
    Vyacheslav
    It became clear that the main problem in the Vienna Ensemble Pro VST3! In other words, Platinum from version 22.11.0.111 can not work correctly with this format!!!



     
    Okay Good luck.

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/09 01:01:26 (permalink)
    If you search the web for "Blank Plug in GUI in Sonar, the #1 Solved cases are Graphics driver.
    What you really should be doing is contacting Vienna Ensemble support.
    Show them the photos you posted here. as a paying member of their software they will help you.
     
    Typically when users start either using caps or using exclamation points !!!!!!
    I feel like they are yelling at me. So keep in mind...I'm trying to help you. my name is not Sonar. don't be mad at me.

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/09 09:36:59 (permalink)
    Thank you, chuckebaby!
    Sorry. I do not speak English very much, as I would like - I use Google Translate. And I'm grateful for your help.
    What you really should be doing is contacting Vienna Ensemble support.

    I have Vienna Ensemble Pro version 5  - last build (I have enough of its capabilities and I did not switch to version 6). I guess version 5 support is discontinued. But I will appeal to the Vienna Ensemble support.
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    But I would like to understand one thing: why does Platinum version 22.10.0.19 work fine, and all the subsequent versions with errors.
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    I feel like they are yelling at me.

    Sorry, I did not understand. Who screams?
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    Thank you, Steve_Karl
    Note that there is an issue with 'some' plugins and open GL in Sonar but there is a fix.

    But I do not know how to apply this solution in particular to the Vienna Ensemble Pro.

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    Re: Versions 22.11.0.111 and beyond - projects are loaded longer than in version 22.10.0.1 2017/08/09 13:52:27 (permalink)
    Vyacheslav
     
    Thank you, Steve_Karl
    Note that there is an issue with 'some' plugins and open GL in Sonar but there is a fix.

    But I do not know how to apply this solution in particular to the Vienna Ensemble Pro.




    I don't think the OpenGL issue I mentioned is related to your issue with VE Pro.
    It was just a side comment just in case.

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