Session Drummer trigger

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2017/08/22 19:12:16 (permalink)

Session Drummer trigger

Hey folks.  Would I be correct (or wrong) in assuming that any external piece of hardware you would like to use as a trigger for Session Drummer would need midi ports?     I saw an advert for a very affordable electronic drum pad / kit 
Its called CUBEAT Drum Machine and MIDI Controller for ipad & PC      I was thinking about buying one of these but I see it only has USB.    If I look at my SD inputs in the Inspector it only has a list of midi settings such as Omni or midi channel 1 , 2, 3 etc.
If Im wasting my time buying a USB drum kit please tell me.     Failing that, there is also the option of the Millenium D-90
Its not bad price but more expensive than the CUBEAT guy.    But it does at least have MIDI ports.   Is this more the type of thing i need to buy to use with SD?    At the moment I use a trigger keyboard which has a midi out port.   Its not bad but trying to sue keys for drum rolls etc is difficult.
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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 19:21:16 (permalink)
    Hi. I use an electronic drum kit for triggering my drum vsti's. It is a very nice way to get some feel to the recordings.
    You will see the extra MIDI input, when something extra is connected.
    All the best.

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 20:14:44 (permalink)
    Thanks Ken.   So basically, my guess was correct?   A usb device is useless for this and a device with a midi port is what is needed.   

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 20:56:15 (permalink)
    Hi Agentcalm,
     
    If I am understanding your question correctly, you're asking if the hardware device has to have MIDI ports in order to transmit MIDI data? The answer is no, this can be done through USB.
     
    I don't want to give you advice about this specific piece of hardware in case I turn out to be wrong, but I use a Studiologic Numa Nero as a MIDI keyboard controller. It connects to my computer through USB. It transmits MIDI data through various MIDI channels to SONAR. SONAR recognizes the Nero as a MIDI input device.

    In general, a MIDI device connected by USB should show up as a choice for MIDI input in your MIDI setup.

     
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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 20:58:42 (permalink)
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    Thanks Ken.   So basically, my guess was correct?   A usb device is useless for this and a device with a midi port is what is needed.   


    No.
    I should have been more precise in my last post. It is a USB electronic drum kit, and it works like a charm.
     

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 21:20:04 (permalink)
    Thanks lads.  Yep Sean, thats pretty much what i was asking.    I was afraid of buying a USB drum kit only to find that Session Drummer wont play soldiers with a usb device.    I should have mentioned by the way lads that i am using a very basic Sonar X3 Studio.  I dont know if it matters much but its not even Professional or Artist level.
    I could upgrade if it matters but X3 works for my needs so I dont want to waste money upgrading software if there is no need.
    Ken do you mind me asking what virtual drums you're using.  Is it like EZ drummer or SD etc?    Sounds like your drum software is seeing you usb controller drum kit no problem. 
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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 21:28:52 (permalink)
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    Ken do you mind me asking what virtual drums you're using.  Is it like EZ drummer or SD etc?    Sounds like your drum software is seeing you usb controller drum kit no problem. 
    Xave


    I mostly use Superior Drummer 2 and Addictive Drums 2. It also works with Session Drummer.
    It's triggered by an Alesis DM6 USB.

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 21:32:42 (permalink)
    And X3 Studio is just fine. Just make sure to upgrade to the latest patch
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013361/SONAR-X3e-Update
     

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/22 22:23:46 (permalink)
    Ah thanks Ken  :)
     

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 06:53:25 (permalink)
    Ken did you need to do any complicating programming or assigning when you plugged in your kit?   Im not very good at that and i was wondering if when you hit your real snare for example,  did you get a snare sound in your VST drums.    Did you have to go through each drum head on the real kit and match it to the VST kit
    So real snare = vst snare
    real tom = vst tom    etc etc. 

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 15:04:23 (permalink)
    My set is class compliant, and didn't need any drivers-
    In SONAR, I just selected it (DM6) as an input/output device in MIDI settings, and I was good to go.
    Easy sailing  
    Both AD2 and SD2 has easy setup for different types of e-drums (Alesis, Roland etc).
    I don't remember id Session Drummer was the same..
    I will check, and report back.

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 15:39:52 (permalink)
    Thanks Ken.  I was looking at a device called the Millenium MD-90 which is a 7 pad all in one unit.  It's about 110 / 112 in US dollars and has midi ports.    Next step up is an actual electronic drum kit also by Millenium.  The HD-50 but this is usb only  and is about 180 US.   Hence my concern about usb devices.   

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 15:43:45 (permalink)
    If I were to buy another, I'd go USB again 
    I think you would be better of getting as good a kit as you can afford.

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 18:10:51 (permalink)
    Thanks Ken for all the tips bro.   Really appreciate it.   I might keep saving and maybe get the full drum kit.   Its a basic set (you can google it ) suitable for a beginner.  
    Xave

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 18:29:17 (permalink)
    I just did a quick check, and both Session Drummer and SI Drums responded correctly to my DM-6 kit pieces.
    (I would think that it would be the case with other E-drums as well)
    I would definitively go for the HD-50, compared to the MD-90, just for the playing feeling alone.

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    Re: Session Drummer trigger 2017/08/23 20:37:09 (permalink)
    Ah nice work bro.   Very good of you to check that out.   Much obliged indeed  :)

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