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TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years --

Someone tell me how to get take lanes to overlap when I drag the ends!

Here's a video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EARn8Kf7bMM

I HAVE project recording mode set to Sound On Sound, not comping . . . why is it still doing this?
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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 18:19:36 (permalink)
what setting you use on the drag & drop option ?

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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 18:29:33 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby tayzonday 2017/08/24 19:37:36
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Someone tell me how to get take lanes to overlap when I drag the ends!

Here's a video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EARn8Kf7bMM

I HAVE project recording mode set to Sound On Sound, not comping . . . why is it still doing this?


Because that is how take lanes work.
 
You can get the clips to overlap if you expand the take takes a bit larger and hold cntrl/shift/alt (one of those), get close to the edge of the clip and you should get the slip edit mouse icon rather then the comping icon.
 
However, personally I find this difficult at times so the other option you have is to collapse the take lanes so you just are in the track view. Then if you slip edit a clip so it overlaps another clip it will get you the expected cross fade.  What it seems like you are doing in the video is not comping, which is what the take lanes are mainly for.

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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 18:36:08 (permalink)
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what setting you use on the drag & drop option ?



It's set to "blend old and new" but I don't believe that section applies primarly to take lane behavior -- it applies to track behavior in the project. 
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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 18:44:32 (permalink)
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Someone tell me how to get take lanes to overlap when I drag the ends!

Here's a video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EARn8Kf7bMM

I HAVE project recording mode set to Sound On Sound, not comping . . . why is it still doing this?


Because that is how take lanes work.
 
You can get the clips to overlap if you expand the take takes a bit larger and hold cntrl/shift/alt (one of those), get close to the edge of the clip and you should get the slip edit mouse icon rather then the comping icon.
 
However, personally I find this difficult at times so the other option you have is to collapse the take lanes so you just are in the track view. Then if you slip edit a clip so it overlaps another clip it will get you the expected cross fade.  What it seems like you are doing in the video is not comping, which is what the take lanes are mainly for.




Thank you for your reply. 

The way I use take lanes in a song is that I will sing twenty takes of a vocal passage, resulting in twenty take lanes. I will mute all of the take lanes and lock their position. Then I will select the best performance, sometimes syllable by syllable, consonant by consonant, and unmute that clip in its take lane. I will then cross fade between them. With all due respect, THAT process is as much what take lanes are for as is comping. 

In this case, I am bouncing an effect (Izotope RX Declicker) that bounces with a 2-second delay. It is most convenient to slip edit prior to bouncing.

CTRL does work to activate the slip edit, so thanks. I forgot about that. You win the answer!
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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 20:12:14 (permalink)
 This is normally how you adjust cross fades. But I don't see that in your video. I see clips in separate places as well as open gaps. Sometimes what I do is get it to the point im happy with the take and do cross fades in the parent track.
I believe you might have to use the CNTRL/SHIFT method to consolidate lanes. Similar to what Reginald was describing.
Any reason your in sound on sound and not comping mode ? And do you have create new lanes on over lap checked in preferences ?

To adjust a crossfade duration, position the mouse pointer near the bottom where two clips abut. When the mouse pointer looks like , drag up or down to increase or decrease the crossfade duration. Drag left or right to adjust the crossfade position.

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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/24 22:53:46 (permalink)
What you just described for editing 20 vocal takes is comping. Use the comp tool and don't worry about the crossfades or overlaps. Save often. Apply the effect after you finish your comp edits.
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Re: TAKE LANE CONFUSION? I MUST BE THE DUMBEST Person For Not Knowing This After 20 Years 2017/08/25 14:07:06 (permalink)
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Someone tell me how to get take lanes to overlap when I drag the ends!

Here's a video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EARn8Kf7bMM

I HAVE project recording mode set to Sound On Sound, not comping . . . why is it still doing this?


Because that is how take lanes work.
 
You can get the clips to overlap if you expand the take takes a bit larger and hold cntrl/shift/alt (one of those), get close to the edge of the clip and you should get the slip edit mouse icon rather then the comping icon.
 
However, personally I find this difficult at times so the other option you have is to collapse the take lanes so you just are in the track view. Then if you slip edit a clip so it overlaps another clip it will get you the expected cross fade.  What it seems like you are doing in the video is not comping, which is what the take lanes are mainly for.




Thank you for your reply. 

The way I use take lanes in a song is that I will sing twenty takes of a vocal passage, resulting in twenty take lanes. I will mute all of the take lanes and lock their position. Then I will select the best performance, sometimes syllable by syllable, consonant by consonant, and unmute that clip in its take lane. I will then cross fade between them. With all due respect, THAT process is as much what take lanes are for as is comping. 

In this case, I am bouncing an effect (Izotope RX Declicker) that bounces with a 2-second delay. It is most convenient to slip edit prior to bouncing.

CTRL does work to activate the slip edit, so thanks. I forgot about that. You win the answer!


Are you using Declicker because of clicks occurring at the clip boundaries? It sounds like you may not be cross-fading them properly or, if they are separate clips, failing to do a slight clip fade in at the start and fade out at the end.

However if this clicks you are trying to remove are part of the recording then that's a different issue for which Declicker might be more appropriate. I'm curious as to why you are having issues with clicks.
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