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I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
I am mixing and everything is fine. Then for no apparent reason I lose all my mix settings in Console 1 for some channels. My "Kick In" track is always affected by this.
In Console 1 I have Shape, EQ, and Drive engaged with different settings. I go on to adjust other settings on other tracks. In time I notice the kick sounding funny, I check it out and see that all my settings are zeroed out, as though I never did anything on that track.
Before I posted here about it, I tested it out. I even saved a Mix Scene in SONAR. After the tracks (Kick In, some backing Vocal Tracks too) zero out to default, I try to call up a Mix Scene that was saved before this happens, and it does not bring back the settings I had before.
Could this be a corrupt project or something? I have to admit that this is making me late on delivering a mix to a client and I am getting a bit frustrated having to go back and remix parts over and over instead of moving on to finish the mix.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 12:17:38
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Hi, Charles  Sorry to hear about your problems. I haven't come across this before. Are you running the latest C1 software version, v. 2.4.17? You haven't by any chance inadvertently grouped some tracks in C1, making this happen? If I come across anything like this, I'll let you know. A little off topic, but I hope you save C1 presets, making the "re-mixing" easier  All the best.
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Sylvan
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 13:06:53
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No, I do not have any tracks in groups. Yes, I am running 2.4.17.
I'll keep researching....
I wonder if it has something to do with my FaderPort. That was what caused weird behavior in the past.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 13:17:47
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You could try disconnecting it and see if it makes a difference.
Are you on Win 10, by the way?
I had to tweak some stuff after the latest update, incl HD Audio, and Nvidia Audio device.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 13:18:27
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It made my system a little unstable, until I made those changes.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 13:29:01
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Yes, I am in Windows 10. Where can I find a list of the changes you made?
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 13:32:39
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I just went to Device Manager, and found them re installed, and re activated.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 14:10:06
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Thanks. I unplugged my FaderPort and so far so good. But I have to leave to take my son to school and go to my other job. Tonight and tomorrow I have an off-site video client. Also on Saturday I am shooting (video-shooting) my oldest son proposing to his girlfriend and Sunday I have a birthday party to shoot. So I may not get back to the studio until Sunday night to test further. But I have a suspicion it is something to do with the FaderPort again.
Maybe it's time to ditch the FaderPort and move to something else. Perhaps a Behringer X-Touch? I don't know. But if unplugging the FaderPort solves this problem, I will be highly motivated to finally part ways with it. I am open to suggestions for sure...
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 14:14:43
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I'm still using an old Tascam FW 1884, in Win 10, X64, SONAR Platinum (latest) with my RME, without any issues When it dies, I'll try to get a Behringer X-touch. Haven't heard any horror stories about it either.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 14:17:44
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Have a great weekend, Charles.
Talk to you later.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 18:31:34
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Zargg
You could try disconnecting it and see if it makes a difference.
Are you on Win 10, by the way?
I had to tweak some stuff after the latest update, incl HD Audio, and Nvidia Audio device.
Zargg Do explain, please! I do not have issues with my Console 1 (one of the best things I ever bought!!!), but I am constantly getting audio dropouts since the Win 10 update.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/22 18:36:46
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Zargg
You could try disconnecting it and see if it makes a difference.
Are you on Win 10, by the way?
I had to tweak some stuff after the latest update, incl HD Audio, and Nvidia Audio device.
Zargg
Do explain, please! I do not have issues with my Console 1 (one of the best things I ever bought!!!), but I am constantly getting audio dropouts since the Win 10 update.
I just disabled and uninstalled HD Audio, and Nvidia Audio device in Device Manager. I did some other minor tweaks I can't remember right now (not in my studio now). Perhaps screensaver and some power management. All the best.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/27 04:21:27
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It strikes again!!! I lost my whole night's work tonight. Right after it screwed up and zeroed out all my work, I closed SONAR and reopened. Upon reopening the Presonus FaderPort went crazy with the fader moving up and down rapidly and freezing the startup process. I had to unplug the USB from the FaderPort, then SONAR opened but all my work was still lost.
I am most certain that this is happening because of the FaderPort now. I don't know if there is a solution. I love the FaderPort and it is such a part of my workflow, but I have to leave it unplugged if I am mixing with Console 1 apparently because I will lose work if I don't. Bummer...
Does this happen with the Behringer X-Touch or the FaderPort 8? I am afraid to use anything Presonus now so I would probably not look at the FaderPort 8. I will try to adapt a new workflow without a control surface for now.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/27 09:47:51
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Are you using Faderport with the original (Presonus) plug-in or with AZ Controller?
Any plug-in, including Control Surface one, can technically corrupt Sonar memory.
You can try the plug-in you do not use at the moment as a check.
The only other possibility for the effect you observer which comes in my mind is something horribly wrong inside USB host/device/driver/Sonar MIDI ports chain and what should be sent to / received from Console mixed with Faderport communications.
a) Recent Sonar versions definitively have some bug in MIDI<->surfaces routing. In/Out ports are periodically messed. That can explain "chaotic fader movement". You can try to remove MIDI related .INI files and re-insert MIDI settings. Also re-build surfaces list. Check for periodic Connect/Disconnect for (any!) MIDI devices in Windows, that normally trigger the bug.
b) try to use another USB port for Console or Faderport, I mean try to use them on different physical USB chains inside computer.
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/27 10:23:16
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I was just about to ask you to try Alexey's AzController, when the man himself chimes in
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/27 21:31:19
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☄ Helpfulby stevethompson 2018/07/12 21:49:03
I don't know if this is helpful but maybe worth to check:
It's not necessary to use Console 1 as a MIDI device in SONAR.
Mine is unchecked (in Preferences > MIDI > Devices) and Console 1 works without the problems you described along with other MIDI control surfaces including X-Touch Compact (using AZ Controller).
Only a shot in the dark...
Best,
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Re: I am Having an Issue with SofTube Console 1 in SONAR
2017/09/27 21:34:37
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Klaus
I don't know if this is helpful but maybe worth to check:
It's not necessary to use Console 1 as a MIDI device in SONAR.
Mine is unchecked (in Preferences > MIDI > Devices) and Console 1 works without the problems you described along with other MIDI control surfaces including X-Touch Compact (using AZ Controller).
Only a shot in the dark...
Best,
Klaus
This I didn't know. Thanks! I'll remove it from MIDI devices, if it doesn't need to be there. All the best.
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