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2017/10/01 02:46:31 (permalink)

Toraverb 2 from D16 Group

Available on Tuesday. Upgrade price from Toraverb 1 is 15 EUR ($17.72).
 
This is a strange reverb that doesn't sound quite like anything else out there. It's not my go-to reverb by any stretch, but it's what I reach for for those times when I want to draw attention to the reverb as a special effect. A great companion to Devastor on drums. Version 2 adds a ducker, which will be a nice convenience, plus M/S processing.


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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 03:11:45 (permalink)
But is it worth those 18 bucks?
I wonder wonder, wonder wonder.

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 03:57:07 (permalink)
I just can't get it to sound good so I uninstalled it as I did all the D16 plugs I have. They are just not for me.

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 07:26:57 (permalink)
cool! looking forward to this one :)

 
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 11:27:47 (permalink)
Hmm....

I have the original Toraverb.  Bought it for the specific purpose mentioned by Bit.  I wonder if they revamped the coding too, as I find that it sometimes isn't "pronounced" enough.  Also, is the GUI larger and/or resizable like Valhalla's?  If the two concerns of mine are met, then I think it would be worth the upgrade price.  Ducking?  Meh.  That's why we have external-side-chained compressors.
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 12:56:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby 2:43AM 2017/10/01 14:36:30
Yes, the GUI is larger. Much larger.
 
I have all the D16 effects and I agree that none of them are what I'd call best-in-class. The chorus doesn't come close to Ubermod, the distortion plugins aren't in the same class as Saturn, and Toraverb is no substitute for, well, any reverb. 
 
But what they all offer is something that sounds different from any of the alternatives I have in my toolbox. If Toraverb has been gathering dust on your disk drive, give it a try as a gated reverb effect on snares. I also like to put it on the drum distortion bus. It's also very good for recorded-in-the-bathroom type effects.


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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 14:39:42 (permalink)
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Yes, the GUI is larger. Much larger.
 
I have all the D16 effects and I agree that none of them are what I'd call best-in-class. The chorus doesn't come close to Ubermod, the distortion plugins aren't in the same class as Saturn, and Toraverb is no substitute for, well, any reverb. 
 
But what they all offer is something that sounds different from any of the alternatives I have in my toolbox. If Toraverb has been gathering dust on your disk drive, give it a try as a gated reverb effect on snares. I also like to put it on the drum distortion bus. It's also very good for recorded-in-the-bathroom type effects.

 
Thanks, Bit!  I couldn't agree more!  Also, your post makes me want to take a second pass trial on Ubermod.  I like plugs that lead to creativity rather than just for mixing.  Saturn is my go-to distortion for creativity, that's for sure.  I can dial in some weird LFO and envelope modulation and viola, a whole new sound and/or pattern is created.  Awesome!  I recall Ubermod doing some similar-type creative effects.
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 14:54:44 (permalink)
I used the D-16 Group Delay on Ken's (aka Zargg) voice HERE with very little tweaking. Maybe I could have had the same result with any other delay I have but this was the first time I used this one and was pleased with what I got (and so was Ken).
 
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 14:55:17 (permalink)
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But is it worth those 18 bucks?
I wonder wonder, wonder wonder.

How can it NOT be worth $18?
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 18:35:11 (permalink)
I think if you try on everything but electronic music you would be disappointed.  I like the presets.

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/01 23:22:15 (permalink)
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But what they all offer is something that sounds different from any of the alternatives I have in my toolbox.



Quite agree on this point.  I picked up all the (then) six Silverline FX units very early in my FX acquisition phase in a  60-bucks-for-the-lot group buy or maybe just a regular sale.   At 10 dollars apiece, I thought I got a pretty good deal.  When D16 upgraded them to 64-bit and it didn't cost me anything, I knew I got a pretty good deal.  I've always had a soft spot for D16 software ever since.  And Toraverb is the most different from any of the alternatives of the lot.  The other thing I liked about the original collection was the presets.  The phasor (Fazortan) especially had some nifty tempo-synced programs that are delightful, although perhaps rarely useful.
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/02 02:14:14 (permalink)
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But is it worth those 18 bucks?
I wonder wonder, wonder wonder.

How can it NOT be worth $18?

When I paid less the first time and ne'er used it?

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/02 14:30:32 (permalink)
On a side note, I think D16's art dept is pretty awesome.  Their fake-hardware 3D models are spot on.  I recall that I sent them an email actually complimenting them on the artwork!  Probably a completely off-the-wall comment/feedback to receive, but they appreciated it!
 
EDIT: Also, is there a demo available for Toraverb 2?  I'm not seeing a link in my promo email or the product's web page itself.
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/02 15:06:16 (permalink)
I've always thought D-16 FX where different and pretty cool. If I was a loop mangler or Dubstepper I would be all over their stuff. If that's what you do you should really take a look. I would like to know what I'm getting this time. Might be more that October is time to save for late November and beyond.

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/02 15:10:51 (permalink)
I need to save up for SSD5 and FG-X 2.0
 
Or just buy another bass guitar.
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/03 01:50:08 (permalink)
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I need to just buy another bass guitar.

Fixed

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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/04 01:33:38 (permalink)
2:43AM
...is there a demo available for Toraverb 2?  I'm not seeing a link in my promo email or the product's web page itself.



It's listed here now.


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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/10/04 01:50:38 (permalink)
I just bought the upgrade, and the price was even a little better than expected: $15 rather than 15 EUR.
 
As noted by 2:43, this is one beautiful UI. Normally, that means nothing to me - just give me a purely functional UI where every control's purpose is immediately obvious. But there's something inviting about D16 UIs. And now I can actually read the damn labels!
 
First impressions:
- main volume control isn't as touchy as it used to be
- my old user presets didn't make it over
- the previous tiny size UI is still an option if you miss it
- not sure if this is a good thing or not: it sounds much better than the old version
- The early/late level knobs turn into mid/side when "MS Mode" is selected. Very cool on a Hammond track.
- above, I said "give me controls whose purpose is immediately obvious"...well, this has one that's not: "FX CURVE". The manual says it changes the wet/dry transition, but I'll have to experiment with it to figure out what that actually means (linear vs log?).
 
 
 
post edited by bitflipper - 2017/10/04 02:24:12


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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/11/07 17:58:52 (permalink)
Hey,

I found an interesting example of using this plugin:

 
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Re: Toraverb 2 from D16 Group 2017/11/07 17:59:03 (permalink)
Hey,

I found an interesting example of using this plugin:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMEFzud5jhE
 
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