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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 01:10:00 (permalink)
It seems like Neutron 1 was just released pretty recently.  I bought it just a few months ago.
I like the whole concept of the O8N2 combo, with both programs working together for a better mix/master.
I just wish there was a better upgrade pricing for people who own Ozone 7, and who just recently purchased Neutron 1.
Honestly I haven't used Neutron much since buying it.  I know what it's capable of, but it seems that there's more work involved than worth the final results.  And the results are often not I wanted or expected, and that I'd be better off just choosing a preset and working from there.

But I am considering upgrading to Ozone 8, there are some new features that I'm interested in.  There's demo versions of both Ozone 8 and Neutron 2 that I'm definitely going to check out to see (and hear) them in action.

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 01:21:29 (permalink)
In interested in the "AI" angle they're taking. I needed Ozone anyway, so I'll pick it up. Hoping for a more in depth article, such as an SOS review, before I pick up the package. The "rent to own" is awesome. 

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 01:24:58 (permalink)
Sounds fun, but I can't justify $149 for the upgrade. Hopefully, there'll be a sale down the road.


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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 02:34:34 (permalink)
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Sounds fun, but I can't justify $149 for the upgrade. Hopefully, there'll be a sale down the road.


Yeah I'm kind of flip-flopping between the Ozone upgrade and a new sampled guitar by Orange Tree Samples, for $20 less.  I think I'll get more use out of the guitar since I already own Ozone 7 advanced, and that works just fine for me for mastering.  Maybe next month....

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 14:07:10 (permalink)
I hear ya, Lee. Too much cool stuff vying for our dollars. And it's only gonna get worse from now through Black Friday to XMas.


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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/06 15:43:22 (permalink)
There is only one solution.
 
 
Request a credit line increase.
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/07 01:21:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby smallstonefan 2017/10/14 15:44:19
Pfft. I've been working all year to pay down my CC, which was over $20k after my burglary and settling my late wife's hospital charges. I've got it down to $6k now, by transferring to a 6-months no-interest card at my credit union and then dumping every spare dime into it. 
 
I hope to zero it out by Xmas, but then, well, it's Xmas.


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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/07 02:41:32 (permalink)
They get you every time. Especially at Xmas.

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/07 02:42:29 (permalink)
But come Black Friday it's downhill from there.

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 11:23:39 (permalink)
Spare a thought for the guys paying in other currencies... $149 x 14 for me.. ugh..

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 12:22:48 (permalink)
 
bitflipper
Sounds fun, but I can't justify $149 for the upgrade. Hopefully, there'll be a sale down the road.

LJB
Spare a thought for the guys paying in other currencies... $149 x 14 for me.. ugh..



Good Day,
 
Definitely there "upgrade" costs are somewhat significant already, and these are supposed to be special introductory upgrade cost only, to go up by end of month if you dont rush in now. 
 
I hear ya, up here in Canada add about 40% to cost for exchange rate and taxes. 
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 12:38:59 (permalink)
I'm sticking with Ozone 5.  It does everything I need.

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 12:50:18 (permalink)
Is there any place where you can find what was changed/fixed in O8 and N2 versus O7 and N1? 
 
Unfortunately it seems that ONLY SONAR does a good job of giving fixes and enhancement info on their releases. The Izotope web site is full of "hype" about why you should upgrade, yes the "tonal balance" thing is new but what else has been added/improved/fixed?
 
Maybe it's there some where and I just haven't found it yet. 
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 13:07:55 (permalink)
Leee
But I am considering upgrading to Ozone 8, there are some new features that I'm interested in.  There's demo versions of both Ozone 8 and Neutron 2 that I'm definitely going to check out to see (and hear) them in action.



Good Day,
Im considering it also and use both advanced versions (i.e. 7 and 1) somewhat exclusively at least at first shot to try and get my bearings, then may revert back to using 1998 circa Sonitus plugins, LOL. I still haven't got up to speed using masking functions in Neutron.   
Otherwise been reviewing manuals/videos etc., there seem to be some interesting features particularly combined functionality, and the visual mixing, tonal balancing and reference track uses. While made to look quite easy in promos there seems to be a fair amount of prep work and learning to use that functionality that's not fully or clearly explained yet in promo videos or online manuals, like aside from requiring Neutron on all tracks you want to interact between, and also apparently Meter Tap, which I dont know much about and cant find any references to in any manuals, nor from its own help function, also some references to requiring setting up aux tracks but not clear on that, again haven't found detailed descriptions or tutorials as of yet. Perhaps the help functions included with demos may explain things better, but I'm avoiding demos so far as I would likely cave into buying, and figure out how to use later, LOL. (I may rather save that money in my Les Paul fund).
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 13:17:59 (permalink)
I’ve got a Less Paul Fund. Named after my dad.

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 14:08:06 (permalink)
I hear ya, up here in Canada add about 40% to cost for exchange rate and taxes.

 
Back in the 70's when I was regularly playing in Canada, we were required to present a manifest when crossing the border, detailing every piece of equipment and its value - plus post a bond that we'd forfeit if anything was sold in Canada. On return to the U.S. we'd often be forced to completely unload the trucks in the parking lot while a border patrol agent ticked off each item on the list.
 
A conversation with a music store owner in Vancouver confirmed that their wholesale costs for guitars and amplifiers was much higher than any U.S. retailer. Gibson and Fender required them to carry every product, even the slow movers, further decreasing their profit margin. Consequently, a Strat was a luxury item for Canadian musicians and not surprisingly, also not a big seller at music stores.
 
But there was a lively black market for smuggled and stolen instruments. A guy walked up to me at a gig, pointed to our mixer and asked "what do you call that thing?". I said "that's a mixer". To which he replied "you want one?". Uh, no, I said. They're not worth very much. Later that week, we sold it before returning to the states.


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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 16:40:12 (permalink)
I think my biggest issue with these two "new" product releases is I have Ozone 7 and it does a very good job - how much better can 8 be?? Also I manage to get the new Eventide Elevate at the very low introductory price, and that is a very impressive product indeed - I find myself using that instead of Ozone (new toy syndrome I expect!) but also it is easy to get a good result.
My issues with Neutron are different - when first released it was such an interesting concept I purchased - Unfortunately  it was so CPU heavy I couldn't use it properly. I didn't think this should have been released in what I felt was almost a rushed unfinished version. Really needed a lot more testing.
There was an update in pretty quick time, where there was some optimization and other bug fixes and I was told by iZotope to use the Vst3 version only - this has improved performance but it still spikes occasionally and still uses a lot of CPU etc. I have been waiting for another update to improve matters further - but no update just a new paid Upgrade and expensive at that.
I have not been very impressed with Neutron so shall not be upgrading that either at the moment - they really should fix the first version first before asking for more money I feel.
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 17:07:05 (permalink)
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A conversation with a music store owner in Vancouver confirmed that their wholesale costs for guitars and amplifiers was much higher than any U.S. retailer. 



Yea no kidding, I think a Strat was about $600, back in 70's, I got a used one for about $300, when the guy figured out he'd never learn to play it, his parents where furious when they found out he sold it for that. LOL. 
Another thing about our music stores like Long & McQuade there's almost 0% knowledge support on electronic gear or anything, you're pretty much on your own if you're looking to buy something, and most of their sales people are snooty arrogant and bitter people who assumedly never made it in the music industry. I guess in part due to high overhead costs like you say they cant afford to hire good knowledgeable staff, there's nothing here even close to Sweetwater, with there online support and demo's of new equipment, at least nowadays I can go to Sweetwater web site get some kind background info on equipment, downside is I see how much cheaper the price is in USA, LOL.
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/10 18:25:57 (permalink)
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I’ve got a Less Paul Fund. Named after my dad.

I haven't found a  good reason other than I had equipment stolen back in 80's, to start a go-fund-me page, or to convince the wife for us to take out a second mortgage so I can buy a Les Paul. LOL.
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/11 03:58:00 (permalink)
I know the feeling :(

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/11 14:10:51 (permalink)
"New Toy Syndrome". I like that. You should trademark that one, Nigel.
 
You start with G.A.S., which morphs into N.T.S. and eventually into...what?


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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/11 14:17:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/10/13 21:18:36
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"New Toy Syndrome". I like that. You should trademark that one, Nigel.
 
You start with G.A.S., which morphs into N.T.S. and eventually into...what?


into debt

just a sec

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/13 15:50:48 (permalink)
Well I took the plunge and grabbed 08 Advanced - I must say I'm truly impressed. Been an Ozone Advanced user since 05, 06 and 07 but this one kicks it up a good few notches.

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/14 10:40:08 (permalink)
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Well I took the plunge and grabbed 08 Advanced - I must say I'm truly impressed. Been an Ozone Advanced user since 05, 06 and 07 but this one kicks it up a good few notches.


Same here! The Assistant is really impressive as is the Tonal Balance module. Allowed me to make some tweaks to an album I'm mastering right now. Ozone continues to impress. 

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/14 12:41:57 (permalink)
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LJB
Well I took the plunge and grabbed 08 Advanced - I must say I'm truly impressed. Been an Ozone Advanced user since 05, 06 and 07 but this one kicks it up a good few notches.


Same here! The Assistant is really impressive as is the Tonal Balance module. Allowed me to make some tweaks to an album I'm mastering right now. Ozone continues to impress. 




You guys aren't helping my "New Toy Syndrome", I'm slowly giving in, LOL.
 
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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/14 16:59:31 (permalink)
Splice is the new Rent A Center for DAWs.   I'm paying $18 a month for groove3 and Mac Pro Video.  That is as far as I will go.    

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Re: Ozone 8, Neutron 2, and subscription on Splice 2017/10/14 19:11:05 (permalink)
Well, this is only Ozone 8 Standard and Neutron 2 Standard.
Had it been Advanced for $14.99 a month with Rent to Own,
I might have bitten...but not for Standard...


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