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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/07 04:03:30 (permalink)
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Ever noticed that almost every time you hear classical music on a crime show, it's being listened to by some kind of extraordinary psychopath?
 
Like you cannot listen to Beethoven without being the kind of person that would make Jeffrey Dahmer look like a sane guy...




Mahler would be more appropriate, ya? 

 
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/07 04:16:54 (permalink)
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Ever noticed that almost every time you hear classical music on a crime show, it's being listened to by some kind of extraordinary psychopath?
 
Like you cannot listen to Beethoven without being the kind of person that would make Jeffrey Dahmer look like a sane guy...




Reminds me of crazy Joe Davola crying to opera in Seinfeld. 
 


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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/07 05:18:53 (permalink)
I think that whole evil guy listening to opera thing started with Hitler, who was nuts for Wagner. People just couldn't imagine a monster being emotionally moved by great music, or anything else. A dissonant image. So naturally, it makes sense that a Bond villain would do the same. Plus he'd like cats. I don't actually know what Hitler's position was on cats.


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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/07 05:56:50 (permalink)
Maybe is cat was called Kampf?
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/07 13:42:36 (permalink)
Workin At The Carwash.
 
Perfect music for a psycho killer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0m0wFOoQ1Y
 

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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/08 09:46:06 (permalink)
Psychopop?!
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/08 14:46:03 (permalink)
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Psychopop?!



Why not?  They already have Horrorpop.

 
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/08 22:53:15 (permalink)
I think I used to freak out my punk buddies/housemates when I started blaring classical music from my room.
 
To be fair though I do generally only blare classical music when I'm feeling particularly cray cray.
 
It calms me.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/08 23:12:10 (permalink)
Also...
 
Wagner was a hack.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/08 23:45:43 (permalink)
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Also...
 
Wagner was a hack.


Oh no, you didn't! 
 



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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 00:03:29 (permalink)
Heh. Well it was good pick for that flick/scene but yanno...
 
Personally for 'Nam material I'll continue to put my trust in Iggy.
 
Search and Destroy (MAYBE NSFW because it shows the bull getting chopped)
 
Just wish whomever the frack recorded that track knew what clipping was... but I forgive them.
 
lulz
 
 
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 16:35:31 (permalink)
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Search and Destroy (MAYBE NSFW because it shows the bull getting chopped)
 
Just wish whomever the frack recorded that track knew what clipping was... but I forgive them.
 
lulz
 

Gotta love The Stooges, especially THAT album.
It was recorded and mixed by Iggy and Bowie, i believe.

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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 16:41:45 (permalink)
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Beepster
 
 
Search and Destroy (MAYBE NSFW because it shows the bull getting chopped)
 
Just wish whomever the frack recorded that track knew what clipping was... but I forgive them.
 
lulz
 

Gotta love The Stooges, especially THAT album.
It was recorded and mixed by Iggy and Bowie, i believe.




Howdy, Sluggo. Actually I think Bowie did a separate mix. It's not quite as raunchy/clippy sounding but it's also much smaller/thinner (and less powerful). I'm guessing that's because he was trying "fix" the clipping on the tracks in post which of course is always an unideal PITA situation.
 
I could be totally mistaken on that but it strikes me if Bowie had been in the tracking session he would have caught everything redlining before it hit the tape. Heh.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 16:58:31 (permalink)
You're right in that he may not have RECORDED it, but he did the mix that was sold for 30 years or so.  In the last decade, someone else mixed it to "calm it down."
I prefer the rough one too

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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 16:58:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Slugbaby 2017/11/09 17:01:12
Yeah, here's a version labeled "Bowie Mix"...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9km8qnbOY
 
I think what he did was turn down that ultra farty/clippy guitar everytime it started getting to out of control (you can kind of hear him riding the faders). I think there may be some overdubbing at play too.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 17:06:18 (permalink)
Looks like we were both right. Bowie re-mixed the whole album (that Iggy had original mixed and botched) with the exception of Search and Destroy which he insisted stay as is.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_Power#Recording_history
 
Initial demo sessions were held at RG Jones Studios in Wimbledon with sound engineer Gerry Kitchingham[6] and at Olympic Studios in Barnes with sound engineer Keith Harwood, with most of the songs rejected by the group's management. Pop said that Columbia executives insisted on two [link=javascript:void(0)]ballads[/link], one for each side of the record; these two were "Gimme Danger" and "I Need Somebody". The album was recorded in London's CBS Studios, from September 10 – October 6, 1972, with staff engineer Mike Ross-Trevor. Pop produced and mixed the album by himself; unfortunately, his botched first attempt mixed most of the instruments into one stereo channel and the vocals into the other, with little regard for balance or tone quality. Tony DeFries, the head of MainMan, informed Pop that the album would be remixed by Bowie. Pop agreed to this, claiming that "the other choice was I wasn't going to get my album out. I think DeFries told me that CBS refused to release it like that, I don't know",[4] but insisted that his own mix for "[link=javascript:void(0)]Search and Destroy[/link]" be retained.
 
Interesting.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 17:29:50 (permalink)
Now I'm kind of confused because it says that the later 90's remix (of the whole album) was done by Iggy and that he jammed in a bunch of gack from the original session that Bowie had cut/faded out and that the new Iggy mix was redlining (which he intended).
 
So I'm not sure if that farty/clippy version is the later Iggy remix or from the original album or the later session nor am I sure whether, even if Iggy INSISTED his original mix of S&D whether they allowed it to happen.
 
Of course I was not born until about 4 years after it was released and I don't think I'd ever heard that tune until at least the mid to late 90's.
 
Heh. It all sounds like the whole thing was one massive clusterfart from inception to now.
 
A beautifully raunchy clusterfart.
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 18:46:50 (permalink)
Nothing from the 90's is worth listening to.  The whole decade was an abortion of music

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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 18:57:07 (permalink)
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Nothing from the 90's is worth listening to.  The whole decade was an abortion of music




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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 19:38:40 (permalink)
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Nothing from the 90's is worth listening to.  The whole decade was an abortion of music


But that's when Suede did their GOOD album!!!

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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 21:11:56 (permalink)
It was better than the 1890s.

 
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 21:16:05 (permalink)
Best album of the 90s for me (and possibly, the esteemed Bapu) was Marc Cohn's eponymous debut. Sheer brilliance in songwriting and stripped back production. I never tire of it.

 
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Re: Psychopaths Like Eminem 2017/11/09 21:23:00 (permalink)
The 90's, IMO, was a (yet another) resurgence in good and honest music/production.
 
The 80's, although there were some stellar acts, was an extremely dark period for music. The 90's, as hokey and naive as they were, were like a breath of fresh freaking air as a musician.
 
Very liberating creatively.
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