nachivnik
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Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
If you would like Gibson to make Sonar open source, please add your vote here. Making Sonar open source would engender goodwill for the Gibson name. It would provide audio professionals, semi-pros, and amateurs a tool over which they could exercise greater control. As an open source tool, Sonar could potentially become the most-used, most-popular DAW in use. The market for DAW software is undergoing a state of flux. This could be the next step.
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anxiousmofo
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 18:35:24
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I vote no and won't happen because of Steinberg and VST.
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Fog
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 18:38:15
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won't happen.. it's an asset / IP.. gibson paid for it.. so want something back.. you ain't a charity, either are they.
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BlixYZ
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 18:51:26
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some are saying that "no one will buy it, stop kidding yourself" others are saying "it must be sold, they won't just walk away from it" both cannot be true. I think microsoft should buy it, just as Apple bought Logic. The basic version can be included with windows (as it is with GarageBand and Mac), then millions will upgrade to Sonar when they need more functionality. There has always been a strong relationship between cakewalk and microsoft- a commitment, it seems. I have plenty of criticism of the microsoft corporation, but i still see this as a sensible arrangement. Windows 10 is actually pretty great, and i think sonar is running better now than at any time prior.
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drewfx1
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 19:00:57
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I think open source might be the best hope. It's true that companies don't like to give things away, but if no one wants to buy the company then what is it worth? Buying the company and keeping it running means you have to pay the employees, which is probably the big problem. But who knows, maybe they would sell the intellectual property to us?
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Fog
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 19:16:08
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you have to get the "logic" why apple bought both emagic and camel audio.. or roland and gibson bought cakewalk... in apple's case.. camel is "bundleware" for them.. ready made / dev'd instrument they modded a bit.. logic ? well they were after avid's business (I was in the trade at the time).. hence why they also made final cut pro, to go after the video side.. much like apple had visi-calc on apple, that bit of software sold shedloads of apple 2's. much like I bought a job lot of games, 147 of the same title.. I didn't want it for the game.. but I did the un-damaged plastic covers.. that were / are a pain to get elsewhere.
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TheSteven
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/22 20:48:08
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What a waste of time. Makes no business sense. Let's start a petition to put screen doors on Russian submarines, that one has just as good odds.
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entlaabstudio
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 02:45:25
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Yes! Please help sonar and Cakewalk products! Sonar is a beautiful and functional program. Open-source will further refine it and finally there will be meaningful music software on this basis. I can not imagine a better starting point for the Open-source community in the development of music software. I have experience with other great professional music programs. This is how the Open-source community will be able to compete with these programs. And that's what the Cakewalk Sonar can now be completely unique.
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jpatrick408
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 18:17:15
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I agree that making Source code available to the public is a good idea. I also know it's also unlikely. Since Gibson/Cakewalk has officially stopped development on all Cakewalk products, going open source is the only way to keep development moving forward. They don't have to release the code under GPL if the want to keep their IP. They can take another route (Like using an Apache license, or writing one of their own). Sonar is an extremely underrated/powerful software that should be allowed to live. It's last 30 years, let's keep it going.
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fresh101
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:23:20
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TheSteven What a waste of time. Makes no business sense. Let's start a petition to put screen doors on Russian submarines, that one has just as good odds.
People are trying to find solutions here. This idea may or may not be the answer but it's something. You're not helping with this sort of response.
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35mm
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:26:23
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There is no way they would give away the code and relevant patents so it could become open source. That would be nuts! I assume Microsoft has already bought it anyway.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:38:50
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Bad idea, I'm crossing my fingers that Gibson will have to sell it as an assett to pay off debits. That at least has the best chance to see a version of Sonar in the future. Who and what is going to do anything with the code in such a way as to appeal to people like me? I find that option the worst.
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Ken Matson
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:41:43
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No offense to anyone, but you're grasping at straws. It is over. Over with a capital O. Already sonar lost probably 50% of its user base. You'll see a mass migration in the next week. Within a few weeks there won't be enough user-base for anybody to justify any development work on it at all
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ØSkald
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:56:53
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ØSkald
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 20:59:54
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Ken Matson No offense to anyone, but you're grasping at straws. It is over. Over with a capital O. Already sonar lost probably 50% of its user base. You'll see a mass migration in the next week. Within a few weeks there won't be enough user-base for anybody to justify any development work on it at all
I did buy Studio One now. And then i realized how great Sonar really is. Yeah i migrated. But that doesnt mean that I wont use Cakewalk or Sonar. If Microsoft rescue Cakewalk and Sonar they will get the user base back. I will. You will.
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Brian Walton
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 23:29:39
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/23 23:49:26
Ken Matson No offense to anyone, but you're grasping at straws. It is over. Over with a capital O. Already sonar lost probably 50% of its user base. You'll see a mass migration in the next week. Within a few weeks there won't be enough user-base for anybody to justify any development work on it at all
50% of Sonar users don't even know that Sonar is no longer going to be supported. The idea that 50% of users have already left is laughable. I bet less than 5% have left so far because of the news. That will pickup as word spreads, but your notion is a far cry from reality.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Petition to Make Sonar Open Source
2017/11/23 23:56:24
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☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2017/11/23 23:58:17
+1 Brian. Most of us are not in a hurry to spend good money. Sonar works, will work for a long time. But there's always been this group who are more interested in NEW toys than actually using the software. I skipped X1 and X2 because of the bad press they got here on the forum. I was always amazed at the ones who would be just a chomping at the bit for another paid for update?? They gave us lifetime updates and those people where probably heartbroken,,"now what am I going to do?" it's free! , Oh great, now I have a reason to spend $200 on another DAW, YAHOO. No. I like to get my moneys worth out of my stuff. Sonar is not broken and I actually look forward to a few years of peace and quiet and uninstalling CCC.
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