sonar installs usb pnp but loses asio4all

I thought I posted this before but don't see it, so I'll update - have X2 producer - installed usb pnp audio device (it's a cable rca stereo to usb for mixer) - want this to be input for audio and asio4all output - when I open file, it plays fine with asio4all v2 (this is before I put the device in the usb drive) acting both as input and output; then I put the cable in the usb slot; sonar asks, as it should, do you want sonar to add this device - it does; but now when I look at input/output drivers under audio devices it says (as I want) asio4all v2 USB PnP Audio Device 1; but for output it now says asio4all v2 not connected; I have re-installed asio for all 2_13 several times now and as I say before I put the USB PnP in the usb port, it was playing fine with asio4all; so it seems when I put the device in, it adds it as output but seems to not see the asio4all any more; I don't know what to do to get it so that when it sees the asio4all v2 USB PnP audio device it doesn't lose the asio4all; I'm hoping someone has had a similar issue or knows how to make sonar see both and let both work together - I'm in 64 bit doesn't seem to be a problem with device sonar sees it - hope to hear from someone - thanks (hope it posts this time).