pdarg
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I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
I currently run it on a WIN7 computer, but am looking to upgrade my hardware soon.
Will there be major issues running Sonar X3 in Windows 10?
Thanks!
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JonD
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 17:41:13
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In general, it works fine. There have been lots of threads about this in the past.
There's still the question of an O.S. update causing a problem in the future. Turn off the internet and you should be okay. (The fact that X3 doesn't require online activation at least protects you from the CW situation).
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Cactus Music
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 18:28:50
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X3 runs fine on all windows platforms from W7 up, probably Vista too.
More of an issue for upgrades are from you audio interface or any hardware that requires drivers. Check company websites first to make sure your not left out in the cold.
People keep repeating this myth that W10 will someday break Sonar. Not sure where they get this idea from. So far W10 has only caused issues, as I said, with drivers for hardware. People are using very old software on W10. On this laptop I am using Office 2003 without issue. I also run DVD shrink which is from 2004.
If you keep system restore on you can always roll back your OS.
If your buying a store bought PC or laptop it will come with W10. There are usually no options.
But if you build your own or purchase from a custom builder you have the option of installing W7 or W 8.1 too.
I has chosen W 8.1 as my "safe" OS.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 18:31:14
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JonD
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 21:05:19
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People keep repeating this myth that W10 will someday break Sonar. Not sure where they get this idea from. So far W10 has only caused issues, as I said, with drivers for hardware.
They get the idea from incidents like this: https://steamcommunity.com/games/543510/announcements/detail/282995674662732546 I agree that system images are a viable safety net, but let's stop telling people Win 10 updates have never caused problems.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 21:19:04
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My version of X3, though I do not use it as often, works great on Windows 10 and all of the updates. Admittedly, I have not used X3 for intense work that I do in Platinum.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 22:42:13
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JonD
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People keep repeating this myth that W10 will someday break Sonar. Not sure where they get this idea from. So far W10 has only caused issues, as I said, with drivers for hardware.
They get the idea from incidents like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/543510/announcements/detail/282995674662732546
I agree that system images are a viable safety net, but let's stop telling people Win 10 updates have never caused problems.
i think a key point to the issue linked above is ....and it appears to only affect some systems since it is timing related.
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Cactus Music
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 22:57:16
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At at what point has W10 update ever stopped Sonar from running?
I didn't say it doesn't cause problems, I am abandoning it because it does cause problems, but it has never actually trashed Sonar for me,, just my drivers and settings.
So I agree to disagree. I don't like W10 but I still have it on 3 computers.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/07 23:00:47
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I wouldn't rely on System Restore to reset Windows 10. I may be doing something wrong but even when I've set my own points all too often it fails to reset... and for no apparent reason I can tell. This was rarely an issue with Windows 7.
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pdarg
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/08 16:21:33
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Thanks to all for their responses.
I guess I should also ask this:
I purchased the lifetime Sonar Platinum upgrade - but never installed it.
Is there any reason I should use Platinum if I am happy with X3? Any big advantages to using the newer version?
Thanks again.
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Cactus Music
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/08 17:25:37
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For me I hope I never have to return to X3e. There are way to many new features I use daily that I cannot see doing with out now. It totally depends on how you use the software.
They have added a LOT since X3e. All for the better.
You can ceratinly install the latest Splat and keep x3e too. I had both up until last week when I re built.
My list of features I use all the time:
Drag and drop a Audio BAss track to create a midi track.
Drum replacer to convert an audio drum track to midi.
The new PVR with the ability to view all midi tracks at the same time and jump around as the song plays.
This one feature I can not think of loosing and probably the main reason I am staying with Sonar.
Not sure if X3 had the smart tool but that is huge for me and the deal breaker with all other DAWS I demoed.
The new lenses and screenset options make it easy to set up a workspace that stay's put from project to project.
The Pro Channel.. x3?
Improvments to Rapture and Dim Pro.
And probably a dozen other things that have been updated.
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JonD
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/08 18:44:56
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At at what point has W10 update ever stopped Sonar from running?
I didn't say it doesn't cause problems, I am abandoning it because it does cause problems, but it has never actually trashed Sonar for me,, just my drivers and settings.
So I agree to disagree....
It has caused problems. Period. And if it did it before, it can do it again. You keep bringing up your personal experience, but how is it relevant if you weren't affected by the issues? You ask, "At what point has W10 update ever stopped Sonar from running?" According to the linked article, that issue caused Sonar to crash in a variety of situations. Isn't crashing the same as "not running"? Yes, issues like these were much less of a concern with an active programming staff squashing the bugs -- but CW's development and support is done. It is simply irresponsible to keep telling people that there hasn't been, or likely will ever be in the future, any Win 10-related problems affecting Sonar. 
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/08 18:48:56
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Cactus Music
Improvments to Rapture and Dim Pro.
These synths have not changed since 2010. Only changes made were to the installers so they could run in the Command Center.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/08 18:54:25
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I think like I say , I do not like W10,, I myself had a whole slew of crashes after the August W10 update.
But those are at this point on my W10 computer very rare. I'll see if my W8.1 machine does better. I think it will but then?
The point will be that Sonar will continue to run under W10 but with pittfalls. I fail to see that MS would wish to develop an OS that made everyones software stop running. Why would anybody use that version?
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/09 18:59:42
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pdarg
Thanks to all for their responses.
I guess I should also ask this:
I purchased the lifetime Sonar Platinum upgrade - but never installed it.
Is there any reason I should use Platinum if I am happy with X3? Any big advantages to using the newer version?
Thanks again.
You can have both programs installed on a Windows 10 system. I just never uninstalled X3 when Platinum came along, although I'd open it from time to time for testing compatibility and such. IMHO Platinum is much better than X3 due to, if nothing else, the speed improvements. However the LP EQ, LP MB, and Adaptive Limiter are also a pretty big deal, and TH3 Cakewalk Edition is better than TH2. Set a system restore point and go for it! I doubt if you'll run into any issues.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/09 19:06:17
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The only problem I know of when installing the current Platinum next to older versions of SONAR is the current Plug-in Manager is not backward compatible. It was broken several releases back. It is possible to run multiple Plug-in Managers by saving/renaming the old version prior to installing Platinum and modifying the registry for older versions of SONAR to see the old Plug-in Manager. Anderton
TH3 Cakewalk Edition is better than TH2.
Yes, especially since Overloud was kind enough to unlock the plug-in.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/09 19:09:07
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Good to know, I never ran the PIM in X3 after installing Platinum because I liked Platinum so much better. It's where I did all my work.
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Re: I want to run Sonar X3 Producer on a new Windows 10 computer - thoughts?
2017/12/09 19:11:32
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The biggest problem is custom layout management. Pretty sure the exclude list and VST properties still work.
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