sharke
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Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
Just a solid fact worth saying.
I'm always struck by how many thoroughly unphotogenic people were in bands in the 60's and 70's. And how much better the music was as a result.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 03:31:27
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actors who sing=gorgeous. Singers who act=fugly. You're totally right, it used to be that musicians were uglier on average than in the other arts. Not sure why...:D:D
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 03:34:41
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Thank the dogs I'm still cute as a button on a frog on a log.
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2017/12/15 03:56:03
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I'm always reminded of Budgie. Burke Shelley wasn't exactly fugly in himself, but you'd never get away with glasses like that in a band now.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 08:08:16
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Yes, I can't imagine Ian Dury getting a contract now.
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2017/12/15 14:45:42
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☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2017/12/15 21:44:15
sad but true. fugly people are reduced to being the voice for loop packs like "ugly folks who can sing but are unmarketable vol 3"
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/12/16 07:13:02
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sad but true. fugly people are reduced to being the voice for loop packs like "ugly folks who can sing but are unmarketable vol 3"
Hey I put my heart and soul into those loops!
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 19:18:34
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Not a new concept, unfortunately. It started with Elvis.
OK, some would say it started with Sinatra. He was the first to have women throw panties and room keys at him. Maybe it's my biased straight male perspective, but he never struck me as a handsome fellow.
Gotta wonder: how many Steve Howes and Rick Wakemans are out there languishing in obscurity today because nobody'd even hire them for Katy Perry's touring band?
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2017/12/15 19:41:05
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Joe Jackson - form an orderly queue ladies...
Brilliant songwriter though, never hear anything like this now.
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/12/16 07:13:43
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Yes, I can't imagine Ian Dury getting a contract now.
 To be fair, he only got one then because people didn't want to tell a disabled guy that he was crap. At least, that's what I always thought the reason must have been.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 20:42:52
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Have to agree with you James. How would the Mama's and Papa's have done on American idol. It all changed with MTV and the concept of music videos.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 20:47:34
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jamesg1213
Yes, I can't imagine Ian Dury getting a contract now.
To be fair, he only got one then because people didn't want to tell a disabled guy that he was crap.
At least, that's what I always thought the reason must have been.
Paulo, could you possibly stop appearing every time I post an opinion, just to take a contrary one? I don't give a flying **** what you think about Ian Dury. Give it a bloody rest man.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 21:09:08
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Joe cocker too.
Bachman Turner Overweight.
Geddy
Keef
That rock scene was anybody that can do it get up there and **** about the establishment no matter what you look or sound like do it baby.
Kinda like the punk or grunge days.
Now it's like Gazzarri's on the strip "If day aint foxes day aint getting up on my stage" was da radio montra in the 80s.
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2017/12/15 21:12:50
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Yes, I can't imagine Ian Dury getting a contract now.
To be fair, he only got one then because people didn't want to tell a disabled guy that he was crap.
At least, that's what I always thought the reason must have been.
Paulo, could you possibly stop appearing every time I post an opinion, just to take a contrary one? I don't give a flying **** what you think about Ian Dury. Give it a bloody rest man.
Note to self..... James G only interested in opinions that are the same as his. I'll go and write that down 100 times an see if it sinks in...brb Nope, I still think he was crap and I still feel entitled to express that opinion. Sorry, but that's kind of the whole point of discussions. Please find below the amount of flying ****s I give about people not liking my opinion..... 
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Lemmy, he was a handsome chap
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 22:02:43
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Joe Jackson - form an orderly queue ladies...
Brilliant songwriter though, never hear anything like this now.
I always thought Joe Jackson looked quite cool. Not "pretty" of course, but he has a uniqueness about his look. Definitely some of the best music of the late 70's and 80's though. I'm The Man, Look Sharp and Body And Soul are 3 of my favorite albums.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
2017/12/15 22:04:54
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A bit of an OT question about punks:
Have you ever seen one with a beard?
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2017/12/15 22:08:10
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OK, some would say it started with Sinatra. He was the first to have women throw panties and room keys at him. Maybe it's my biased straight male perspective, but he never struck me as a handsome fellow.
Yeah, but he made up for his looks by being a first-tier full-on a**hole. bitflipper
Gotta wonder: how many Steve Howes and Rick Wakemans are out there languishing in obscurity today because nobody'd even hire them for Katy Perry's touring band?
I've heard on good authority that a great many classical music organizations now conduct auditions in which the performer is behind a thin curtain so that the evaluators cannot take appearance into consideration.
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Lemmy, he was a handsome chap
Oh forgot about the Lemster. Yeah. Well played
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No pictures to prove it, but I have sighted a punk with a beard. A dark green goatee to be exact.
Though since everything he wore was black I suppose he could just have been a daring goth who discovered dark green and decided to experiment with it.
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Good Lord, what is Man! for as simple he looks,
Do but try to develop his hooks and his crooks;
With his depths and his shallows, his good and his evil,
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2017/12/15 22:13:31
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sharke
A bit of an OT question about punks:
Have you ever seen one with a beard?
Absolutely. Especially the crop of crust punks of the past couple decades. The ultra manicured, spiky, colorful style of yesteryear isn't dead but it's a pain in tha ballz to do and costs money so most punks just groom up all purty for special occasions or whatevs.
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PS: I currently have a full Will Riker beard and long arsed metal hair again.
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and long arsed metal hair again.
It saddens me sometimes, up until 5 or 6 years ago I had just got to the stage where my hair was long enough to sit on, alas a foolish mistake was made due to the influence of a female of the species, and now  I have tried a couple of times in the last 18 months to grow it back ( it would take years) but I could never get past the annoying stages, and I guess I'm about to turn 54. Wish I still had it though, and I'm fairly sure that the evil woman was jealous that my hair was far better and longer than hers and that played a big part. Anyway, it's only hair.
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Re: Music was much better when fugly people were allowed to release records
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tlw
No pictures to prove it, but I have sighted a punk with a beard. A dark green goatee to be exact.
Though since everything he wore was black I suppose he could just have been a daring goth who discovered dark green and decided to experiment with it.
I'm sorry, I'm afraid goatees don't count 
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2017/12/15 23:06:11
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Beepster
sharke
A bit of an OT question about punks:
Have you ever seen one with a beard?
Absolutely. Especially the crop of crust punks of the past couple decades.
The ultra manicured, spiky, colorful style of yesteryear isn't dead but it's a pain in tha ballz to do and costs money so most punks just groom up all purty for special occasions or whatevs.
I was in a thrash band with a first generation punk on vocals around '89 or so, his wife was a punk also. Been in touch with them both on Facebook over the last couple of years and see their photos of nights out etc and all of the punks they grew up with look the same now, some in their late 50's. Stomachs and arses have ballooned in size though, natch.
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2017/12/15 23:40:29
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Those guys were a glimmer of hope for teenagers struggling with acne and bad hair in a world filled with the all-made up pretty boys of hair metal...  or... Imagine if pictures captured the smell... 
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Yea, because music is ALL to do with visuals.
There is no hope for music going forward. The only road I see is more computer generated crap and product. The age of so called "real" music is gone. Not saying everything was better back in the day, but at least it was, to some extent, honest. These days you can't tell the difference between a comercial and a song ... it is all bland crap.
I don't mid though, there is enough good stuff to last a lifetime, but there is no place for real music from here on and anyone thinking otherwise is kidding themselves. American Idol ... jesus christ.
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2017/12/16 01:11:43
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Yea, because music is ALL to do with visuals.
There is no hope for music going forward. The only road I see is more computer generated crap and product. The age of so called "real" music is gone. Not saying everything was better back in the day, but at least it was, to some extent, honest. These days you can't tell the difference between a comercial and a song ... it is all bland crap.
I don't mid though, there is enough good stuff to last a lifetime, but there is no place for real music from here on and anyone thinking otherwise is kidding themselves. American Idol ... jesus christ.
You do realize everything you do in Sonar is "computer generated" though, right?
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