Your wish is my command.

Beagle
what do I think?
 
They've answered all they're going to and there's no reason to expect anything else from them.  don't expect a buyout or a release of code because they've already told us that the cake brand is dead and they aren't going to put any more effort into it.
 
I think it's over.  the fat lady has sang.  
 
you can use what you have until it doesn't work any more or you can move on.  I don't see any other options.
 
that's what I think.
 

I agree Reece. I'm finishing up the song we have in works and then moving over to the new DAW. She has sung.

Maybe it wasn’t a host but a Cakewalk staffer that moved the thread in which case we’re not going to know.

My feelings were just like yours Kenny. Not any more. I think we're getting played. I think they'll open Cakewalk under a new name with zero debt and legacy costs. I could be completely wrong but given that they refuse to say anything and are now actively controlling critical comments, that's what I'm left with. 

ampfixer
My feelings were just like yours Kenny. Not any more. I think we're getting played. I think they'll open Cakewalk under a new name with zero debt and legacy costs. I could be completely wrong but given that they refuse to say anything and are now actively controlling critical comments, that's what I'm left with. 

Hi John ,
 
To be clear , I fully accept your position and how you feel . I have no desire to modify or try to change in anyway shape or form how you are processing the whole chain of recent events of what we are discussing here on your thread ..
In my case , I'm trying to keep an even keel and hope that the glass is half full ...
 
Now it is entirely possible that what you are saying could happen ...I sure hope not , but I do know that it can happen that way ...
Just so you know I am still a little POed that Cakewalk dropped Project 5 ...even after all these years , 
FWIW , all the valid explanations don't mean much too me ...SO I begrudgingly move on ....
 
Now in a worst case scenario , for the sake of our dialog , lets agree that you are right ...using your quote bellow.
"I think they'll open Cakewalk under a new name with zero debt and legacy costs."
 
If that does indeed happen I guess ole Kenny is just gonna have to go old school ..by that I mean ...
 
While I'm down there taking a deep breath and grabbing my ankles , On the way up I'm just gonna have to grab a rabbit straight out my A$$ just to remind myself that regardless of what Cakewalk may or may not do ,
 
I'm still caught in the cross hairs of being a musician in The Music Business ....no matter how humble my place in the bizz is today ....
In the past , I got around ,
I have been EFFed over by some of the best in the Bizz throughout my time here on this planet as a guitar player ,
My short list of getting it in the rear includes Grammy winning Artists I have played with as a sideman , The heads of a few A&R depts , Various bands signed and unsigned , Club owners , assorted folks I have networked with that have cut me out of the money but they still took their cut , Hell even my own Mother   ..
My own freaking Mother  didn't give 2 $hits about me and my music... I ran away from home and never went back when I was at teen .
As an adult ,it was only when I started showing up in the newspapers  of the town she had moved too that she rekindled her interest in my MUSIC
 
SO Yeah The one thing that I have learned the hard way is this about the music Bizz ...
Nobody and I mean Nobody in the music Bizz will give you $hit or anything until you are Exploitable
 
For every dime I ever made somebody else made a dollar or more off me ...
 
 
You do know that in the past I have had the Presidents of a couple of The Made in USA guitar companies give me a free guitar (here and there ) right ?
You know how that happened ? they all laughed in my face until Mark Dronge of Guild gave me a Guitar as a Gift .
After that  they stopped Laughing in my face and sent the Limo over to my Roach infested N Y C apt to bring me out to their factory ...
I didn't even have a record contract at the time but I was gigging out in all the best places and clubs ....
Why am I saying all this ? because even music companies that claim not to give stuff to artists and players do give stuff out n the down low ....
 
In the scheme of things Cakewalk may indeed  stick it to me just like you have said  ..compared to every one else they at least treated me OK for 12 years ...
 
Kenny
 
 

What we don't know is everything. As stated in my sig, I'm an eedjit. 
 
Based on the announcement all we know is that the cash has been shut off and there will be no further development. But the company has not been closed and there are still people working there. There is still a Cakewalk. I would like to hear from whomever is still in charge. Even if it's to say that they have no idea what's going on. Cakewalk is not Gibson, they were financed by Gibson.
 
I can't go to my creditors and tell them that because my employer of 25 years sacked me they should no longer expect me to pay my bills, or that any responsibility I had has now ended. People can't do that, why should companies get away with it?  I'm not crazy, mean or in need of a tinfoil hat although some may argue. Somebody is putting unflattering posts into the coffee house. Why?

Beagle is absolutely correct. Business is business. Gibson shut down Cakewalk because they couldn't afford to pay the employees. There are no more Cakewalk employees.
The bottom line is that Cakewalk could not financially sustain itself so it was shutdown.
Gibson is in so much debt right now that they don't have time to think or care about Cakewalk. It is nothing to them.
They are too busy trying to fix their sick company. 
If the Phillips consumer thing doesn't work then that will be the final blow and the end of the current "Gibson".
After that, who knows? Maybe a Chinese company will buy them.

In a past life I was a director of a company that went into liquidation. It's no fun, I can tell you.

This vid is obviously staged but hilarious anyway... Can imagine the good samaritan as CW customers, then make up who the other three are...
 

ampfixer
I feel the time for mourning has past. Be it Noel or somebody else, we deserve to know the way forward. If the party's truly over we should be getting info on how we can secure our investment.
 
If any of the mods can still contact Cakewalk I encourage them to do so. We need license activation codes and this continued silence is BS. Perhaps it's time for anger instead of pity. My work space is full of orphaned software and hardware that says Cakewalk on it. I feel it's time to wrap it up.
 
What do you think?

My guess is that they still don't have a plan, and it may be a while before they do with a high probability that not a lot will change until Gibson's next crisis.
 
Pretty sure that ending development was a simple financial decision to stop the debts growing. My guess is that just leaving the servers running does not cost Gibson that much, in the context of their current problems, so they probably are not in a hurry to make the changes to get rid of them.
 
Not sure how many people are left at Cakewalk but it looks like Noel is not one of them. One thing for sure is that as long as the servers can be kept up reworking the licensing code, which could be quite an intrusive change, will not be a priority. At this stage it does seem that there really is no one at Cakewalk to create the plan that we would all like to see. What happens next really is up to Gibson.
 
Biggest risk right now is that the Cakewalk staff that have been retained decide to leave and that may be the trigger for Gibson to start doing something about licensing or selling the IP (assuming that remains an option).

kzmaier
Lack of Marketing.

...and lack of focus in the right areas; lack of prioritizing what's more important; being too comfortable after 30 years of success (resting on laurels that died and they didn't notice); lack of... well you get the picture.

kzmaier
Gibson should not underestimate our love of this software!

Unfortunately not enough people loved it enough to pay for it.

I know its spilled milk...
 
Marketing - Get 3 Big name producers and 3 Big name artists and a Bunch of youtube videos showing these Big names showing off the Sonar qualities, and bingo Bob's your uncle.  Getting the Big names would take some work but could be done.
 
The 3 B's!!!