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Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
I wonder if there are compatible processing plugins for Sonar 8.5 Producer? Things like a denoise tool, but especially an audio version of what would be otherwise considered visually oriented, a spectral editor. Someone told me about something called Spectrum Analyzer, but I'm not sure if that's exactly an audio spectral editor.
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/20 14:07:10
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I am having trouble imagining a spectral editor that isn't visual. That is kind of the definition of a spectral editor: a visual representation of the spectrum that can be manipulated visually.
A spectrum analyzer (usually) is not an editor, but rather just the visualization part. It's meant to be used in conjunction with the traditional "spectral editor", an equalizer.
I'm no expert, but I think the best approach for a non-sighted person is probably the good old parametric (or paragraphic) equalizer. How that actually works, I have no idea. But the fact that each filter has specific parameters means you don't technically have to see them to manipulate them. The visual aspect of parametric equalizers is really just a convenience, or at least it's a convenience for sighted people.
Have you considered hardware EQ? I have seen engineers tweak hardware equalizers without looking at them, because they know where the controls are and the knobs often have tactile feedback such as notched positions. That not only makes it possible to operate them by touch, but also makes it easier to replicate settings.
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/20 15:49:39
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/20 17:10:20
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There is Span which I'm finding handy- Free too-- http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/ But for figuring out which frequencies I have going over the top I like to put the LP 64 Multiband on my master bus. It will quickly tell me if say I've got to much of any one of the bands it set for. Say if you have to much low end that meter will be showing steady action. Should be easy for you to see.
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/20 17:53:59
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Hi again! To answer Annabelle's question on Spectral Analyzer & Spectral Editor, they are two different things. The free Spectral Analyzer Span is a great tool Cactus Music :) but sound like Annabelle is looking for a Spectral Editor, to edit out unwanted noise, right? The Stillwell Audio's Spectro is an Spectral Editor VST plugin, fully functional to try: http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/spectro/ There are other Spectral Editors like SpectraLayers, iZotope RX and Samplitude has it built in but these are not plugins. Here's an example of the Samplitude Spectral Editor so you get the picture how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqt087D1054 Stillwells Spectro work in a similar way, a great tool to have :) Regards Thomas
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/21 13:50:09
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TotteG
Hi again!
To answer Annabelle's question on Spectral Analyzer & Spectral Editor, they are two different things.
The free Spectral Analyzer Span is a great tool Cactus Music :) but sound like Annabelle is looking for a Spectral Editor, to edit out unwanted noise, right?
The Stillwell Audio's Spectro is an Spectral Editor VST plugin, fully functional to try:
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/spectro/
There are other Spectral Editors like SpectraLayers, iZotope RX and Samplitude has it built in but these are not plugins. Here's an example of the Samplitude Spectral Editor so you get the picture how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqt087D1054
Stillwells Spectro work in a similar way, a great tool to have :)
Regards Thomas
Does it have text-based knobs and sliders that screenreaders can understand?
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/21 14:29:21
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TotteG
Hi again!
To answer Annabelle's question on Spectral Analyzer & Spectral Editor, they are two different things.
The free Spectral Analyzer Span is a great tool Cactus Music :) but sound like Annabelle is looking for a Spectral Editor, to edit out unwanted noise, right?
The Stillwell Audio's Spectro is an Spectral Editor VST plugin, fully functional to try:
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/spectro/
There are other Spectral Editors like SpectraLayers, iZotope RX and Samplitude has it built in but these are not plugins. Here's an example of the Samplitude Spectral Editor so you get the picture how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqt087D1054
Stillwells Spectro work in a similar way, a great tool to have :)
Regards Thomas
Yes, I'm trying to get rid of noise, for example, the 60-cycle hum when making telephone tone recordings. Or the hum of the refrigerator in the kitchen, or the hum and swish of my upstairs neighbor's washing machine.
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/21 15:15:40
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Annabelle
TotteG
Hi again!
To answer Annabelle's question on Spectral Analyzer & Spectral Editor, they are two different things.
The free Spectral Analyzer Span is a great tool Cactus Music :) but sound like Annabelle is looking for a Spectral Editor, to edit out unwanted noise, right?
The Stillwell Audio's Spectro is an Spectral Editor VST plugin, fully functional to try:
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/spectro/
There are other Spectral Editors like SpectraLayers, iZotope RX and Samplitude has it built in but these are not plugins. Here's an example of the Samplitude Spectral Editor so you get the picture how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqt087D1054
Stillwells Spectro work in a similar way, a great tool to have :)
Regards Thomas
Does it have text-based knobs and sliders that screenreaders can understand?
Hi Annabelle! Sorry, no text-based knobs or sliders so I don't think it would work with a screenreader. It's a visual tool which shows the audio frequencies in different colours so you can identify the problem visually and you draw a box around specific frequencies you want to edit. Regards Thomas
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/21 15:40:24
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Annabelle
TotteG
Hi again!
To answer Annabelle's question on Spectral Analyzer & Spectral Editor, they are two different things.
The free Spectral Analyzer Span is a great tool Cactus Music :) but sound like Annabelle is looking for a Spectral Editor, to edit out unwanted noise, right?
The Stillwell Audio's Spectro is an Spectral Editor VST plugin, fully functional to try:
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/spectro/
There are other Spectral Editors like SpectraLayers, iZotope RX and Samplitude has it built in but these are not plugins. Here's an example of the Samplitude Spectral Editor so you get the picture how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqt087D1054
Stillwells Spectro work in a similar way, a great tool to have :)
Regards Thomas
Yes, I'm trying to get rid of noise, for example, the 60-cycle hum when making telephone tone recordings. Or the hum of the refrigerator in the kitchen, or the hum and swish of my upstairs neighbor's washing machine.
Ok, then a Denoiser plugin would be a better choice, with that you can take a noise print (noise sample) of the problem to edit it out in realtime, I'm not sure which Denoiser plugin which work best with a screenreader. Regards Thomas
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/22 00:54:08
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I would based on solely the 60Hz hum, you could do that with a multi-band parametric eq. (Sonitus should be in 8.5) Set to the highest Q and then cut 60hz, 120hz, 180hz, etc... multiples of the 60hz frequency (harmonics).
I think there is a 60Hz preset in the Sonitus eq.
Good luck!
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/22 06:31:25
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Hi Annabelle, the best options to remove that noise are noise reduction plugins that do a noise capture (of "just noise" on the lead or tail end of a take) and then removal of that print from the entire track/clip. Only two come to mind offhand, which are Adobe Audition and iZotope RX. After going to a subscription model, Audition is not a good candidate (too unwieldy to get an older copy, and then the unknown if it will meet your needs). However, iZotope has taken a lot of effort to make their plugins backwards compatible and are a much more user-friendly company. I just sent them an email request and linked this thread on your behalf in hopes that they can chime in here with a recommended solution for your needs. ReaFIR (a free reduction tool included with Reaper's Plugin Pack), is another option, but I am not sure if it is screen reader friendly.
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Re: Sonar 8.5 Producer: Compatible Plugins
2017/12/25 02:48:47
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Quick follow up, iZotope emailed today (Christmas Eve of all days!) and confirmed that RX6 is screen reader friendly and recommended to try out the demo. I have an RX5 plugin pack that was included with something, and could achieve the noise reduction, but was not as straight forward as noise print capture/noise print removal. Their "Elements" packs go on sale often, and are bundled with other things, and a demo is prudent to make sure anything will meet your needs.
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