xirclebox
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Feels like I lost an old friend.
I won't lie, I was pretty ticked when I heard Gibson was shutting down Cakewalk. I'm a software dev so I get it. Nonetheless, Cakewalk has been my primary DAW since 1988. I hope another company picks up the rights and the continues the dev work. I really don't want to invest in another DAW anytime soon.
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synkrotron
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 20:17:59
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A lot of us are in the same boat but I personally found switching to a new DAW much less painless than I first thought.
Download some demo's, have a play, see what you think.
Have a look in the software forum... Plenty of great advice in there.
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Shambler
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 20:23:07
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I'm finding it quite painful and realising what a great DAW SONAR really is.
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jeff oliver
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 20:36:14
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☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2017/12/25 20:46:44
Studio One 3.5 is rock solid here. It's been less than a month and I had a full session a week ago with no problems. I'm still learning new things but I must admit I'm a believer now of all the hype.
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Shambler
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 20:51:48
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jeff oliver
Studio One 3.5 is rock solid here. It's been less than a month and I had a full session a week ago with no problems. I'm still learning new things but I must admit I'm a believer now of all the hype.
I think Studio One is closer to SONAR than Cubase is, it feels more like home than Cubase because it is closer to the Skylight interface. Studio One feels lean, I just miss the prochannel. *bangs head against the wall for a bit.
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Jimbo 88
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 21:20:31
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I jumped to Cubase and finding there are a lot of pluses to doing so. Sonar is easier to set up screens and record midi/audio, so composing for me is just easier/better in Sonar. But after that, Cubase just is head shoulders more advanced especially if you score to picture. Latency is not an issue, Notation is way farther ahead, you can move video around, Cubase's version or ProChannel opens all the channels at once (not just the one channel), tempo is handled much better and Variaudio is like having an advanced version of Melodyne and Audio Snap all rolled into one (the only drawback is no polyphonic auto tuning).
After what Gibson did and seeing all the better features in Cubase I am kicking myself for being such a Sonar "fanboy". I Should have jumped ship long ago.
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Jimbo 88
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 21:22:47
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The thing is this community is really great. There is nothing like the Sonar Forum for great advise and people. This is why I stayed, I guess. This is where I feel like I'm losing an old friend also.
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bitman
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 21:30:59
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For me I see no reason at all to move to another DAW.
Sonar does everything I want and need it too and a lot more than that even.
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jyoung60
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 21:50:03
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Check out Reaper as well, before making a final decision. While everyone has different requirements in a DAW, Reaper does fill a lot of needs.
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gswitz
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/25 22:42:49
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I spent hours using sonar today.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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KeithAdv
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 12:45:07
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Jimbo 88I jumped to Cubase and finding there are a lot of pluses to doing so. That's been my experience. Jimbo 88...But after that, Cubase just is head shoulders more advanced especially if you score to picture. Latency is not an issue... Yes, that's one of my main DAW tasks and it's been a treat to put Cubase through those paces. Another one of my unexpected treats was how well Cubase integrates outboard synths. Porting my Cakewalk .INS info in Cubase ScriptMaker was kind of a hack-y experience, but after that, it's been wonderful. Being able to use my outboard synths as VSTs, etc., has been excellent. I'm actually inclined to use them more in Cubase, where it Studio One, you kind of feel like giving them up! Jimbo 88After what Gibson did and seeing all the better features in Cubase I am kicking myself for being such a Sonar "fanboy". I Should have jumped ship long ago. Ouch. Well, I hate to speak ill of the "dead," but yes, so far I wish I had jumped into Cubase sooner. Sonar isn't that bad at all, and I loved it...but I do find Cubase a better environment for me.
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MANTRASKY
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 13:32:43
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jeff oliver
Studio One 3.5 is rock solid here. It's been less than a month and I had a full session a week ago with no problems. I'm still learning new things but I must admit I'm a believer now of all the hype.
I feel the same as you! Since switching to Studio One 3 a month ago has been wonderful. I’ve recorded songs with ease, tried Platinum after this time and Sonar just felt “Clumsy and Slow?” Studio One has been “Rock Solid” very intuitive, easy to learn. I was on the fence with Cakewalk for sometime, been with Cakewalk since 8.0 I was tired of the “Bugs” that never get fixed with too much Legacy Bloated Software.
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Midiboy
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 13:43:40
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I really don't get the fascination with ProChannel. It was nothing extra and nothing you couldn't do on any other channel with the FX Bin. Yes, they had a few extra effects only available to the ProChannel, but none of them were special and every one of them has counterparts that you can get from WAVES, IsoTope, or even free.
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MANTRASKY
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 13:52:07
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Midiboy “Yes!” ProChannel? I get better results with FabFilter, Waves, NuGen etc.
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djwayne
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 15:58:32
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I have to agree about Studio One. I bought the program Saturday night, last night I made 5 midi songs with it. The work flow is fantastic. Very easy once you learn it. Here's one of the ones I made last night...... https://soundcloud.com/djwayne2000/new-york
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Brian Walton
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/26 17:01:30
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Midiboy
I really don't get the fascination with ProChannel. It was nothing extra and nothing you couldn't do on any other channel with the FX Bin. Yes, they had a few extra effects only available to the ProChannel, but none of them were special and every one of them has counterparts that you can get from WAVES, IsoTope, or even free.
It is about workflow. with Pro Channel a few clicks and you have a full effect chain added to every single channel. Then you have the ability to tweak each one without having to open a new UI for each plugin. If you don't see the value in that then I'm guessing you have too much time on your hands. I use WAVES and Izotope also, but honestly they slow down the process because they are not prochannel. I use them because I like the sound. The FX bin isn't the same thing.
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Thedoccal
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/27 04:53:57
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Gibson threw away Cakewalk and its one-of-a-kind Pro Channel
In an attempt to save Sankyo and Phillips consumer hifi divisions.
That's like me throwing away my EDS-1275 to save my Epiphone SG Bass.
Everybody and their mother has an effects bin.
Only Sonar has a Pro Channel.
One word - CONSOLE EMULATOR
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synkrotron
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/27 09:00:40
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Not used prochannel or console emulator for two years...
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Re: Feels like I lost an old friend.
2017/12/27 14:32:31
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bitman
For me I see no reason at all to move to another DAW.
Sonar does everything I want and need it too and a lot more than that even.
I'm with you Bitman... Even with all the ongoing issues I had with it's development, it is still far better overall than any other. We'll see if/when a time comes when this is no longer true. I've checked out PT, S1, DP, Reaper, Mixcraft, and Mixbus... Cubase doesn't currently have a demo available, but from the last time I did check it out, it had a long way to go to catch up to Sonar of that time.
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