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2018/01/14 07:29:46 (permalink)

Drums question....

Hi guys
I'm putting in drum tracks myself in the box.
My question is how or should I put in overheads?
At the moment I just have the kick, snare toms, cymbals etc...
How would I go about putting in overheads? do I need to replicate an overheads sound?
Should I simply route all drum components to another channel and pan to replicate an overheads feel?
This may be a stupid question but if I don't ask then my knowledge will not grow.
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    Sir William
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 10:56:58 (permalink)
    Hi. What VSTi are you using?

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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 11:00:55 (permalink)
    Session drummer I believe
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 11:10:10 (permalink)
    Ah, I'm not familiar with Session Drummer. When you inserted this synth, did you check All Synth Outputs? Does that not have an overheads in the mixer?

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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 11:16:39 (permalink)
    I don't believe it does but I'll need to check.... saying that I'm not sure how you replicate an overheads sound anyway as the sound of all drum channels would be same no matter what as opposed to a live drums setup when overheads are actually giving you a unique sound of the kit along with room mics. Maybe I could run a couple of group drum buss and have different reverbs and pans on them?
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 11:16:40 (permalink)
    I don't believe it does but I'll need to check.... saying that I'm not sure how you replicate an overheads sound anyway as the sound of all drum channels would be same no matter what as opposed to a live drums setup when overheads are actually giving you a unique sound of the kit along with room mics. Maybe I could run a couple of group drum buss and have different reverbs and pans on them?
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 13:29:07 (permalink)
    Overheads shouldn't be necessary with programmed drums
     

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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 14:00:18 (permalink)
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    Overheads shouldn't be necessary with programmed drums
     


    Depends.
     
    AD2 , BFD2/3 etc all provide dedicated OH, Room & Ambient type channels and the sound you get from these is, and naturally so, VASTLY different to the sound of the close mics alone.

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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 18:47:47 (permalink)
    Ok so it depends on what vst I'm running although it may not be required...I'll have a look at my options in my daw..thanks for the replies
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 18:48:51 (permalink)
    Ok so it depends on what vst I'm running although it may not be required...I'll have a look at my options in my daw..thanks for the replies
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 19:36:50 (permalink)
    Do you use Sonar Platinum? If so, you have Addictive Drums as part of your package. That certainly comes with overheads.

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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 19:41:03 (permalink)
    I have sonar professional
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    Re: Drums question.... 2018/01/14 21:20:51 (permalink)
    I stopped using Session Drummer when we got AD2 with Sonar. It sounds a lot more real and a big part of that sound is the miking options. Take AD2 and turn off the overheads and/or Room mikes and it will now sound like Session Drummer. 
    I will still use SD3 when I need to play my own samples. That is what is missing from AD2. 

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