Vermillion221
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Still Having Problems Installing
I've been using Sonar for a few years now, I finally have Platinum, and upgrades and everything. The laptop I use has an SSD (C) as the system drive, it's small and has 120gb. I have a second internal (D) drive with 1tb of storage that I keep all of my applications on.
SONAR refuses to install on the D drive. I've changed the settings on the computer, the CCC paths, the registry, everything. The closest I got was everything was on the D drive except it wasn't finding 3 of my core plugins. I'm getting frustrated. It's slowing my computer down, and I've probably spent a total of 4-5 weeks trying to fix it. Countless reinstalls.
How do I get SONAR to fully understand I want it on my D drive and not my C drive.
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carlosvallejo
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 18:09:45
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Hi Vermillion221:
I just want to give you a small advice only trying to help. If I didnt misunderstood your C drive is a 128 SSD and your D drive is an internal 1Tb normal hard disk and that is fine. But if any application should reside on SSD is SONAR because SSD speed helps a lot for not having audio cut outs. So your system files, your SONAR application and your working cwp projects should reside on your SSD for better performance. Once you have finished working with them then you can store the final results in the 1Tb normal disk.
Few months ago I had a 4 years old laptop with windows 10, 4Gb memory, 256Gb internal normal hard disk, SONAR Platinum. When I used 4 software instruments I was starting to have audio cut outs that I couldnt avoid with buffer and Asio settings. The problem was disk speed. Then I aquire a new 500Gb SSD and 4 Gbs of additional memory and replace the internal 2.5 normal hard disk with the new SSD all the problems finished and the working speed increased sustancially.
I understand your SSD drive is small, but 128Gb hould be enough for the system and Sonar. If you have to move applications out move other applications nor Sonar.
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Carlos
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 18:18:18
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☄ Helpfulby Bristol_Jonesey 2018/02/26 18:22:13
I have a 120 GB C drive on my main DAW and by managing the sample libraries you can have Sonar and all your software on the C drive no problem. Mine is sitting at 45 GB and I have a lot of music apps on it.
What I do is let the Programs install everything to C drive first, then I move the samples and tell Sonar where they went.
All my Project folders are on a second DATA drive along with the Libraries. No data is stored on C drive other than a few pictures and whatnot
One thing to keep an eye on is the CCC download folder which you will want to move to the D drive once finished. It can grow to 20 GB or more. It's found in C/Program data/cakewalk/Command center
But many people use 120 GB C drives without issue.
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Vermillion221
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:06:51
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So it's possible to have the application on the C drive, but is it possible to have Rapture, Dimension and all the beefy MIDI libraries on the D drive? Because I think that is my biggest issue. I also am not sure how to tell SONAR where they went.
I've had everything on the D drive before, I was so close to getting all working the way I wanted it to, but it couldn't find TH3, my most used plugin.
I just want to find the best way I can optimize my storage options.
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:41:24
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Vermillion221
So it's possible to have the application on the C drive, but is it possible to have Rapture, Dimension and all the beefy MIDI libraries on the D drive?
Absolutely yes it is possible. Your asking for problems by trying to install Sonar on a separate external HD. Install Sonar on main SSD C:\ and Samples on external HD
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Vermillion221
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:44:46
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Do you have a step by step for separating the installation? I've been at this too long and tried too many things to think about it logically.
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:49:55
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Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:51:23
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In the CCC, Click on the "Gear" icon in the upper right of the panel then click the Path tab.
You can make changes there.
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 19:55:08
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Do you have everything installed on C:?
If not, what is the status of the installation?
It is just as easy to move stuff as it is to reinstall and if moved properly you will never have to worry when added new content to the synths. The same method works for the Command Center and avoid having the setting change unexpectedly for you. I will be glad to provide those instructions or if you want to perform a clean install of everything Cakewalk I can provide those instruction too. The knowledge base can help with the latter but there is an issue with one of the steps.
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Vermillion221
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 20:05:42
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Currently, everything is uninstalled and I was planning on installing everything from CCC.
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 20:29:45
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Has the registry been cleaned up? This is an important step. Assuming there have been install attempts, the registry has not be cleaned and are no other Cakewalk products on the machine follow steps from this article http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013372/Clean-Install-All-Cakewalk-Software BUT BEFORE YOU DO THE CLEAN ALL CAKEWALK SOFTWARE PROCESS TAKE NOTE OF STEP 8.If there is any non-Cakewalk software installed in either: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk
C:\Program Files(x86)\Cakewalkunderstand this software will be removed too. Think 3rd party plug-ins. If there are any non-Cakewalk products in these folders consider moving the folders to another location so that it may be restored after the clean install. On to installing using the Command Center - Run the Command Center
- Click the gear to access the Command Center setup
- On the options tab - enable Verbose Install. This shows all the prompts as if running the installers from the Command Line including the path prompts.
- On the Paths tab change the folder locations as needed. Note some sample based plug-ins do not allow for alternate locations so you will either need to specify the plug-in path here or move the samples after install if you use the default path. I can help with the latter if you choose to keep the plug-ins on the system drive. I do not recommend changing the download path here because the Command Center will reset it when logging back into the Command Center. A better way to leave the default and fix this at the OS level with a directory junction. The choice is yours. I will provide exact steps if you tell me where you want to put the folder. The Content Path is a large part of a SONAR install. This you will definitely want to change when running a small system drive.
- Once the Command Center is all setup. Run the installers and answer the prompts.
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carlosvallejo
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 20:41:42
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My advice would be to install evertything in your SSD drive C, specially SONAR, for better performance. If you are running out of space in your SSD drive here a couple of hints:
a) when you use Command Center to installl your programs, it downloads all installers in C\ProgramData\Cakewalk\CommandCenter\Downloads. After installation they will remain in that location using a lot of usefull space. You can copy then to an external disk to use them just in case of a reinstall and erase this installers that you dont need from drive c . This will save a lot of space in you drive C\ProgramData\Cakewalk\CommandCenter\Downloads.
b) if you need additional space you can use the windows program DiskCleanup. You can find it under Windows Administrative Tools\DiskCleanup use it to clean up drive C. Please also note that you can under DiskCleanup click on the button "Cleanup system files" to claim aditional space (for example the space used for windows updates). In this way you can recover some aditional Gbs
c) if you need additional space (i doubt it), then move samples to other drives.
I hope this will help
Regards
Carlos
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 21:36:19
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Please let the OP follow Scooks advice. I know your just trying to be helpful but additional instruction will only confuse the pour guy. . He is in good hands.
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Vermillion221
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Re: Still Having Problems Installing
2018/02/26 22:43:06
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Ok, quick update where I'm at. I have everything I need on the C drive, except for Dimension. I'm about to get rid of the install files off the C drive, then use disk clean up.
If that doesn't free up enough space, I'm going to try and move samples from the C drive to the D drive, just the samples though.
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